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[ddeubel]

I am surprised that no one has pointed out the obvious here....... besides "the devil" rightly saying that this is a "cultural" or may I expand, "enculturation" problem....

Besides violence being very much linked to power and also in it's manifestation at a proximate level, being a very, very complex problem -- this case is definitely one of domestic violence. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

Domestic violence is a scourge on society, all societies. It is not more or less in any cultures and numerous far reaching and broad studies have shown such. It exists in all cultures and in all parts of the globe. It is a cultural specific evil and not one that is of religious origins. I am sure before Caine slew Abel, he damn sure beat his wife a lot more before it.

Adventurer mentioned that we should be concerned with women's rights. I agree. A horrible problem in many parts of the world. The U.S. being the least of them, many Muslim nations the worst of them. But there is little if no relationship between the increase in women's rights (education/fiscal independence/legal norm and rights / social support ) and a decrease in domestic violence. None whatsoever. Increasing women's rights is a great thing, but it is not a panacea vis a vis the issue of domestic violence. Nor does it seem policing and punishment seem to curtail or push down the growth of this but rather in studies, seems to be a symptom of problem as a whole.

When you have the United States up there with Pakistan and Kenya as a state with large problem of domestic abuse, the facts speak for themself (yes, say I am anti - American but I state a fact, not a slander). What helps women in America, is the great respect for their rights, but it does little to hinder the abuse endemic there and worldwide.

Estimated that 1 of 3 women will experience it in their lifetimes, at the hands of men. 1 in 5, in a very horrid form. I repeat, cuts across all nations, cultures, races, religions. But if anything does seem to be an indicator of "less", it would seem to be by having male youth avoid the gungho of "power" and male bonding. One statistic that speaks, is how those professions such as policing, crime/criminals, the military, security, professional sports - professions where aggression is seen as a plus in many circumstances -- these professions have astronomically higher rates of domestic abuse. The only other "tell" is that those who view and experience abuse when young, will tend to also abuse.

Last year, WHO did a very comprehensive, cross cultural, world wide, anthropological survey. Not reliant upon official statistics which for the most part are under reported and tainted.

http://www.who.int/gender/violence/who_multicountry_study/en/index.html

So let's stop this "blame the Muslims" and look within. Blame God if anything but stop there -- he made us capable of being monsters, all of us.
I had two sisters who went through this "shyte" and probably offered in the same off the cuff manner as so many here who argue to bomb and dehumanize so much of the human spectrum.

Here is a good chart about what happens in America.


http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2005/07/dv_stats.html?welcome=true
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[Adventurer]

[igotthisguitar]

Has not anyone yet noted the manner in which wordly politics become diffused & embedded throughout the more exclusively "religious" ( i.e. spiritual ) sphere?.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooo much EGO.

[postfundie]