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[yawarakaijin]

Now before we all get into it, I would like to ask that this not become just one of the typical American bashing threads that we have all seen so often.

In your mind, and in the most objective fashion possible, I would like to hear your opinion on just how much (if any) responsibility the average American should shoulder in regards the Bush administration and it's policies.

Documentary after documentary is released highlighting just how little regard the Bush administration has for the American people. It's only one example but I just finished watching Iraq for Sale and I was truly disgusted.

Bush standing on stage making jokes about having no idea what rules where in place in regard to civilian contractors in Iraq and the entire press core laughing it up was one of the most surreal things I have even seen. People dying, the killing innocents and it's all just a joke. American citizens being sent on suicide missions by corporations and it barely registers a blip on the pysche of the average american. Unbelievable in a country where old ladies get millions of dollars for having hot coffee spilled in their laps.

So where do we stand? At what point, if ever, does the average American bear responsiblity for this administration? I mean we are living in the information age. I don't think pleading ignorance should be able to cut it anymore.

[mervsdamun]

[sundubuman]

what???

[stevemcgarrett]

yawar:

Frayed thread lame at best; disingenuous at worst. First you offer a caveat that you don't want to bash Americans and then proceed to do just that.

So let me say what you so desperately want to hear:

All 60 million Americans who voted for Bush are accessories to criminal foreign policy and should be taken before the world court in The Hague.

Happy now?

[bnrockin]

Some American have taken an active role in it. For one, we have elected a majority democratic party in congress and the senate to prevent Bush from passing any more crap laws and are trying right now to end the whole Iraq thing. That is the voice of the American people right there. Second, like me, have joined organizations to try to prevent the use of torture. So saying that Americans are doing nothing about it is a load of crap. We are not going to cite revolution over this or anything. With the recent congressional elections, Americans have shown that they are not satisfied with Bush and DID do something about it.

I want to make it clear that it is not like I have a concentration camp across the street from me where we are torturing and murdering Arabs. All that stuff is happening overseas away from American eyes and ears, only with the occasional leak. In some ways, we are ignorant. The information we had gotten up until Rumsfeld (SP) resigned was that "The war was going fine" even though we personally knew it wasn't. It isn't until now that the government has admitted that the war is going pretty crappy. Recently there has been news that even the billions of dollars...in CASH... that we sent there have been "mismanaged." In other words, some guy over in Iraq is now a rich guy on the block or richer. That above many things peesis me off.

So to answer your question, just look at the results of the election and that we are trying to make changes and that should tell you how much "slack" you should cut us.

----Don't blame me...I voted Kerry.

[Sine qua non]

[yawarakaijin]

Sorry you feel I'm being disingenuous Steve. If you care to check my posting history you may have a better idea of where I fall politically. Not the best worded post, possibly.

I understand there is a lot of American bashing and you may be overly defensive but it's a valid question I think.

Would your reaction have been different if I had asked how much responsibility the Palestinians bear for electing their current government? Would your reaction have been the same if I had suggested that Iranians deserve whatever they get for electing such a crackpot?

Governments all over the world make bad choices and follow bad policy. My question is when or IF the citizens a country should bear responsibilty for their government's actions.

[Dodgy Al]

wrong forum

[Fresh Prince]

So I should assume that you won't be asking for any advice or suggestions about jobs or contracts, from American's in the future then?

[andy202]

I think the subject of this thread is valid and fits well within the description "General Discussion" and, furthermore, should not be shouted down by consciencious citizens of the said state who, afterall, take great pride in upholding their belief in freedom of speech.

It remains an unanswered question, that how the most liberalized, wealthiest and well-informed nation in the world can vote into power what has become known as The Bush Administration, unless they choose Will and Grace in favour of a modest read-up of national and world events from time to time.

How about apathy, naivity and national pride? This has been the primary cause identified behind a number of other notorious regimes. I am thinking specifically of Germany's Nazi dictatorship but there are other examples.

The most worrying thing about Bush however, is that, unlike Hitler, he is not even able to present himself as a convincing speaker.

Bush regards himself as a Christian man. What Christian Faith does not teach people to love their enemies? And that's just his own people.....

[Sine qua non]

[billybrobby]

Seriously, this is the wrong forum. And I'm not taking sides. But this belongs in the Current Events forum, where every thread resembles 10 starving dogs and a pork chop.

[The Cosmic Hum]

thanks for the laugh billy...keep up the good work

[giovanni]

299,999,999/300,000,000

[kangnam mafioso]

i believe anyone who voted for the war should be held responsible (both democrats and republicans). i also think those who voted dubya in for the second time should bear some extra responsibility.

with that said, it's quite obvious that many (perhaps most) americans now dissapprove of the war and want out.