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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: We're putting on a Kindy show- oh, the humanity! |
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You should be so lucky- my hogwan wants us to put on a show for the kindy parents with singing and dancing. DANCING! A one hour "show" with mommies there, sitting on fold-out chairs. It's not exactly the "Great White Way"- Broadway, if you catch my drift.
Okay, I understand that Korean parents are nuts who have no real idea if their kids are actually learning English; but does singing AND dancing qualify as learning English?
It has reached the point of insanity largely because my Korean kindy co-teacher is treating it like a genuine Broadway production. The "power" has gone to her head. She actually yells "Action" and "Cut", and "Line" (when the kids forget) and has "understudies" for the "lead roles"- yep, it's gone to her head. Will there be Broadway talent scouts in the "audience"? I don't think so.
All they're going to do is sing some of the usual songs- "Muffin Man", "I can Sing a Rainbow", and the rest (you KNOW the rest), but she has them dancing through the songs, too. DANCING! Plus, there's some short plays they're going to perform that are better left "undiscovered."
But wait- there's more! The school is ordering outfits for the big numbers! I recommended some traditional Korean outfits that couldn't possibly upset ANY Korean mother, but they're going with some sequined outfits that SCREAM "JonBenet Ramsey twirling a baton." No gay men in Korea, eh? Then who imported sequins?
I just want to SURVIVE until this is all over. SURVIVE, aka, LAY LOW.
I can just picture a Korean mother chatting with other mothers at Lottemart- "My son didn't learn a single English word at that school, but he looked FABULOUS in his little outfit as he danced through "The Elephant Song." Mothers will flood the place with new customers, I mean new students. |
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goodgood
Joined: 22 Nov 2006 Location: seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I've been through a number of these. Hell on earth. Just make sure you are Hitler, and the kids learn their parts.
I was way too lax with one of my classes- I mean, they get bored as hell doing this stuff every day- and, ooooh, it was nasty when they blew it on stage. Trust me, BE HARD ON THEM!!!
It's a colossal waste of time, but in the end the kids seem to really enjoy it, even though they've just been tortured for months to learn their parts. Why they like it, I have no idea.... |
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grainger

Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Wonju, Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like my Christmas play.
Two months of wasted effort and the mothers complain about everything.
"Johnny has too many lines."
Two days later.
"Johnny has to few lines."
Everything in this country seems to be a high pressure pagenet. All the mothers want to make sure their kid is the one that shows up all the other little kids. They will pressure their kids into memorizing their lines. Freak out if they can't. Mothers will actually cry over this.
And it's all a reflection on your school. So your director will probably spaz. Take it seriously because the western idea of a school performance with all the kids goofing up and running into each other and - oh how cute. Is completely non-existent here. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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wylies99, I hear what you're saying, but it will take more than this to shock me.
I already had my shock when I saw dance numbers with sexy outfits put on by a church-sponsored
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I have also seen a program put on by an English school, but taking place at the church which the director attended. It also had dance numbers, and some of the dance numbers had sexy outfits. Like you, I wondered how much English they were learning from the dance numbers. |
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oneofthesarahs

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Location: Sacheon City
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Definitely make sure they know their lines. Parents in America expect plays to be full of cute little mistakes, kids tripping over the set, hats sitting askew, etc. But in Korea mothers expect nothing short of PERFECTION.
Trust me, I played director to a production of Aladdin recently. If there is a hell, it's trying to corral 50 some odd kids into singing "A Whole New World." |
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Kim Jong Jordan

Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Location: The Internet
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Dude, i had to write a koreanized version of pinnochio complete with 8 song and dance numbers with myself singing and dancing and performing it in front of a few hundred parents. torture! F#&%@ hagwons (especially ECC Uijeongbu)! This is why public school gigs are way better, thank God for my change of venue! |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: We're putting on a Kindy show- oh, the humanity! |
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wylies99 wrote: |
You should be so lucky- my hogwan wants us to put on a show for the kindy parents with singing and dancing. DANCING! A one hour "show" with mommies there, sitting on fold-out chairs. It's not exactly the "Great White Way"- Broadway, if you catch my drift.
Okay, I understand that Korean parents are nuts who have no real idea if their kids are actually learning English; but does singing AND dancing qualify as learning English?
It has reached the point of insanity largely because my Korean kindy co-teacher is treating it like a genuine Broadway production. The "power" has gone to her head. She actually yells "Action" and "Cut", and "Line" (when the kids forget) and has "understudies" for the "lead roles"- yep, it's gone to her head. Will there be Broadway talent scouts in the "audience"? I don't think so.
All they're going to do is sing some of the usual songs- "Muffin Man", "I can Sing a Rainbow", and the rest (you KNOW the rest), but she has them dancing through the songs, too. DANCING! Plus, there's some short plays they're going to perform that are better left "undiscovered."
But wait- there's more! The school is ordering outfits for the big numbers! I recommended some traditional Korean outfits that couldn't possibly upset ANY Korean mother, but they're going with some sequined outfits that SCREAM "JonBenet Ramsey twirling a baton." No gay men in Korea, eh? Then who imported sequins?
I just want to SURVIVE until this is all over. SURVIVE, aka, LAY LOW.
I can just picture a Korean mother chatting with other mothers at Lottemart- "My son didn't learn a single English word at that school, but he looked FABULOUS in his little outfit as he danced through "The Elephant Song." Mothers will flood the place with new customers, I mean new students. |
Now this deserves the Post of the Year Award for truth, daring, and comedy. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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No matter what goes wrong, it'll all be blamed on me, anyway. I suspect that's why I'm "involved" with the production. I'm "The Fall Guy" for this one. It sure as heck isn't because anyone is actually listening to me.
It all reminds me of that "Southpark" episode with the musical about "Helen Keller" and "Timmy" and his turkey.
Needless to say, this will NOT be listed on my resume.  |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just make sure you are Hitler, and the kids learn their parts.
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Maybe I could talk them into putting on "Spring time for Hitler"?  |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a well-known music educator who harbors a distaste for this sort of thing anyway:
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Programs! For the PTA, for the school assembly, for almost any occasion, just ask the Music Department.
How can obviously detrimental aspects of this situation be turned into positive benefits to the students and to the Music Department that will reveal the impact of music for total growth and development? |
Nash, G. C. 1974. Creative approaches to child development with music, language and movement. Van Nuys, CA: Alfred Publishing Co.: 151. |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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bunch of people SCARED of a group of KIDS!
we had a huge 2 hour concert for our kindy at democracy park in busan. there were about 16 different songs and plays on it. the kids loved it and they STILL keep saying the words and singing the songs that we taught them. They loved doing the concert and they were so proud when they had finished it. i felt it was as good as any western kiddie concert. it was demanding on the teachers, but actually the western teachers had to work LESS because all the teaching time was taken up by practicing for the concert.
just do it! you'll probably end up enjoying it in the end! |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Spyro- obviously you have never taught kindy or dealt with kindy mothers. Plus, what does dancing have to do with LEARNING ENGLISH? |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Spyro- obviously you have never taught kindy or dealt with kindy mothers. Plus, what does dancing have to do with LEARNING ENGLISH? |
you fool, i've worked at a kindy for an entire year. i teach ONLY kindy right now. obviously you don't know what you are talking about!
as for dancing and learning english - ever heard of TPR? my kids have learnt the lines from their concert better than anything else they have studied this year. even kids who don't know their ABC's memorized their lines from the play.
the costumes did leave little to be desired though - especially out 7 year old boys 'bodybuilding' dance, wearing only swimming trunks and nothing else  |
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Toast and Kimchee

Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I've taught K-5 General Music for five years in the U.S. and our curriculum actually required us to infuse history, mathematics, science, and social studies into our teaching. Music actually encompasses all of these things.
When you think about it, English is more then form and structure. It is poetry, rhythm, and music as well. Consequently, by having the children perform English songs they are studying English/American culture.
Obviously there are many facets to the English language, as well as many ways to study and practice it. One very important way is through performing (singing, and speaking).
Albeit the dancing is a bit much, but if it raises the kids' enthusiasm with regard to the rest of the performance then so be it. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Form and poetry- blah, blah, blah. When they get off a plane in US, Canada, or GB, will it be more important that they can dance "Swan Lake" or actually be able to speak the language? I'd guess the latter.
This performance stuff is EDUTAINMENT without the education. It's all BS. |
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