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How much slack should we cut the average American?
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do Americans get so thin-skinned over the OP's post? Because a lot of those who come over here are liberal (or at least think we are) and then get pigeonholed and lectured over our country's mistakes by people WHOSE BELIEFS WE NORMALLY SHARE!!!!!

I'm tired of having some moralistic Canadian (generally has been them) tell me what's wrong with my damn country. Go fix your own problems. Or at least try to write to my leaders instead yelling at me. Protest my country's actions, start or join organizations promoting your beliefs, but STOP ATTACKING INDIVIDUALS. I didn't sign off on this mess! Yelling at me does not help, same when I overly criticize some other individual's country. All that does is get the person to dislike me. SO STOP IT!!!
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to laugh at these threads...I mean really, who the f u c k cares what anyone thinks? I don't care, say whatever you want about America, say whatever you want about the current administration. The bottom line is, my money is still in the bank, my car is still parked in the driveway, I'm not going to do anything different than I did yesterday and you can whine can cry and complain till you're blue in the face and it won't change a dognamned thing. You can write your long winded posts and be the intellectual all day long, then you can hit the refresh button and read your diatribes over and over and congratulate yourself on your excellent points, but really at the end of the day...you haven't made a difference. You haven't changed anyones mind. People believe what they want to believe and if it makes them feel better to read right wing news, then that's what they'll do. Name calling won't not do a damned thing except maybe make you feel better about your beliefs.

And if the republicans win again in 2008, I guess we're all going to be in Korea for another four years! Very Happy
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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The korean war was really nothing to be proud of. Whole villages were napalmed on the suspicion that a few folks might be sympathetic to the north. When the marines bugged out of the north, they destroyed the city behind them. if it's total war, then play it like that, but if it's not, then what was that all about anyways? I can understand a war. I can't understand slughtering refugees in a "police action."

But the war need not have been neccessary. It was a play-off between the US and Russia. The US systematically dismantled governing units in the south to set up a more capitalist government. Unfortunately the capitalists were pretty ineffectual at government and repressed the people.

mThe initial partition was a bad idea gone wrong. The US using the Jap system and Jap collaborators to organize a government in the south was pretty lame. The history of Korea would be far different today if these misguided steps were not taken. I doubt very much that the Kim Jong Il would be in charge of things, that millions would be starving, and that a homogenous people would be endlessly training to kill each other. Korea would likely not be as prosperous as much of South Korea is today, but everything is a trade off. Might not be as corrupt, dirty, and xenophobic either. Who knows?
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hairy sue



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
There wouldn't even BE a north korea if America hadn't decided to divide it.


This is now 2007.......
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hairy sue



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would rather die than allow the Japanese or any country take control of my country. You'll have to kill me. There is no compromise. I would kill my own people if they refused to fight.
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hairy sue



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5000 years of history and you don't fight?
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sportsguy35



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
The korean war was really nothing to be proud of. Whole villages were napalmed on the suspicion that a few folks might be sympathetic to the north. When the marines bugged out of the north, they destroyed the city behind them. if it's total war, then play it like that, but if it's not, then what was that all about anyways? I can understand a war. I can't understand slughtering refugees in a "police action."

But the war need not have been neccessary. It was a play-off between the US and Russia. The US systematically dismantled governing units in the south to set up a more capitalist government. Unfortunately the capitalists were pretty ineffectual at government and repressed the people.

mThe initial partition was a bad idea gone wrong. The US using the Jap system and Jap collaborators to organize a government in the south was pretty lame. The history of Korea would be far different today if these misguided steps were not taken. I doubt very much that the Kim Jong Il would be in charge of things, that millions would be starving, and that a homogenous people would be endlessly training to kill each other. Korea would likely not be as prosperous as much of South Korea is today, but everything is a trade off. Might not be as corrupt, dirty, and xenophobic either. Who knows?


Is this guy serious??? You are right that there wouldn't be a North Korea if it wasn't for the US. Thats because we would be in a communist Korea right now if it wasnt for our guys. I swear on my life that I wish idiots like you could have lived back then without your cable tv and pc bangs or whatever the hell it is you enjoy because of the guys that died to give it to you. F---ing bastard
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ED209



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to invite what ever country has the most guns to rule my country(what ever country that might be).
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
The korean war was really nothing to be proud of. Whole villages were napalmed on the suspicion that a few folks might be sympathetic to the north. When the marines bugged out of the north, they destroyed the city behind them. if it's total war, then play it like that, but if it's not, then what was that all about anyways? I can understand a war. I can't understand slughtering refugees in a "police action."

But the war need not have been neccessary. It was a play-off between the US and Russia. The US systematically dismantled governing units in the south to set up a more capitalist government. Unfortunately the capitalists were pretty ineffectual at government and repressed the people.

mThe initial partition was a bad idea gone wrong. The US using the Jap system and Jap collaborators to organize a government in the south was pretty lame. The history of Korea would be far different today if these misguided steps were not taken. I doubt very much that the Kim Jong Il would be in charge of things, that millions would be starving, and that a homogenous people would be endlessly training to kill each other. Korea would likely not be as prosperous as much of South Korea is today, but everything is a trade off. Might not be as corrupt, dirty, and xenophobic either. Who knows?


Your argument needs to dig deeper into the very common Asian cultural precepts (it's been proved that they exist) because, in the absence of cross-cultural anthropological, socio-historical, and peninsular-based Korean cultural understanding, there's no rational way to understand The Thing that is the Republic of Korea vis-a-vis its Post 1953 History without an understanding of localised "healthy" racial predjudice(s).


Besides, the R.O.K., the most reasonable conclusion is that almost all of Asia will suffer from its tribalistic, racist nature for the next 'X' number of years BECAUSE, stolen/borrowed/loaned Western-made ideas aside, it's cultures are just plum socially and technologically backward in too many ways.

No amount of Westernization is going to change such profoundly "traditionally-minded" Asian societies into the sorts of societies that their so-called reformists/progressives would ever hope to see in this, the 21st Century.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sportsguy35 wrote:
ChopChaeJoe wrote:
The korean war was really nothing to be proud of. Whole villages were napalmed on the suspicion that a few folks might be sympathetic to the north. When the marines bugged out of the north, they destroyed the city behind them. if it's total war, then play it like that, but if it's not, then what was that all about anyways? I can understand a war. I can't understand slughtering refugees in a "police action."

But the war need not have been neccessary. It was a play-off between the US and Russia. The US systematically dismantled governing units in the south to set up a more capitalist government. Unfortunately the capitalists were pretty ineffectual at government and repressed the people.

mThe initial partition was a bad idea gone wrong. The US using the Jap system and Jap collaborators to organize a government in the south was pretty lame. The history of Korea would be far different today if these misguided steps were not taken. I doubt very much that the Kim Jong Il would be in charge of things, that millions would be starving, and that a homogenous people would be endlessly training to kill each other. Korea would likely not be as prosperous as much of South Korea is today, but everything is a trade off. Might not be as corrupt, dirty, and xenophobic either. Who knows?


Is this guy serious??? You are right that there wouldn't be a North Korea if it wasn't for the US. Thats because we would be in a communist Korea right now if it wasnt for our guys. I swear on my life that I wish idiots like you could have lived back then without your cable tv and pc bangs or whatever the hell it is you enjoy because of the guys that died to give it to you. F---ing *beep*


How can you be sure Korea would be communist? Had the country not been divided, the government of korea would be far different than it is today. The division of korea placed the north half under the influence of the Sovits and south under the control of the Americans. The governments that developed were ones to the liking of their respective masters. A unitary korea would likely have developed a government unlike that which developed under either half. There certainly would not have been a Korean war, meaning millions of people would not have been killed. The lack of war readines would mean there would not have been military dictatorships on either side. Even had Kim il Sung been the leader of a quasi-communist government of all korea, there would have been no need for the religious reverence he and his son have been given. Likely Korea would be a whole, capitalist-socialist hybrid country today.

How many communist countries are there anymore besides korea? One - Cuba.
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sjrm



Joined: 27 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
sportsguy35 wrote:
ChopChaeJoe wrote:
The korean war was really nothing to be proud of. Whole villages were napalmed on the suspicion that a few folks might be sympathetic to the north. When the marines bugged out of the north, they destroyed the city behind them. if it's total war, then play it like that, but if it's not, then what was that all about anyways? I can understand a war. I can't understand slughtering refugees in a "police action."

But the war need not have been neccessary. It was a play-off between the US and Russia. The US systematically dismantled governing units in the south to set up a more capitalist government. Unfortunately the capitalists were pretty ineffectual at government and repressed the people.

mThe initial partition was a bad idea gone wrong. The US using the Jap system and Jap collaborators to organize a government in the south was pretty lame. The history of Korea would be far different today if these misguided steps were not taken. I doubt very much that the Kim Jong Il would be in charge of things, that millions would be starving, and that a homogenous people would be endlessly training to kill each other. Korea would likely not be as prosperous as much of South Korea is today, but everything is a trade off. Might not be as corrupt, dirty, and xenophobic either. Who knows?


Is this guy serious??? You are right that there wouldn't be a North Korea if it wasn't for the US. Thats because we would be in a communist Korea right now if it wasnt for our guys. I swear on my life that I wish idiots like you could have lived back then without your cable tv and pc bangs or whatever the hell it is you enjoy because of the guys that died to give it to you. F---ing *beep*


How can you be sure Korea would be communist? Had the country not been divided, the government of korea would be far different than it is today. The division of korea placed the north half under the influence of the Sovits and south under the control of the Americans. The governments that developed were ones to the liking of their respective masters. A unitary korea would likely have developed a government unlike that which developed under either half. There certainly would not have been a Korean war, meaning millions of people would not have been killed. The lack of war readines would mean there would not have been military dictatorships on either side. Even had Kim il Sung been the leader of a quasi-communist government of all korea, there would have been no need for the religious reverence he and his son have been given. Likely Korea would be a whole, capitalist-socialist hybrid country today.

How many communist countries are there anymore besides korea? One - Cuba.


you're forgetting China, Vietnam, and Laos. but who's paying attention, right?!
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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can countries with billionaires be considered communist? One-party? Sure. So was Taiwan for dcades. Communist? I don't think so.
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alpope23



Joined: 15 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Average American MUST have SLACK!

Praise "Bob"!

Send $1 to PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 !
You may be surprised!
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reconhottie



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, not again...... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an American and I consider myself 0% responsible for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. My political position (and life philosophy) has always been, "Make porn, not war."

My voice and votes were not enough to sway the American government's decision, unfortunately. I feel like I did all that could have been asked of me as an American citizen.

What I find most interesting is this: When I was home, American rednecks constantly called me Osama. Here, a handful of Canadian and Korean rednecks constantly gripe to me, "Bush this, Iraq that, you Americans..." I wish the rednecks would give it a rest already. I'm not a fan of either man, and I doubt either man will ever be a fan of any movie I ever make.

A few months ago, I overheard a Canadian tell a Korean not to buy anymore Ben & Jerry's ice cream because it's an American company. Ben Cohen has achieved a lot of notoriety and press for his outspoken criticisms of the foreign policies of the Bush administration. Canada and Korea both invaded the Middle East, yet some citizens of those two countries spend their time discussing ways to financially punish Ben Cohen, as if he made the final decision on the matter to send troops from his country and/or their countries into war.

But I'm not going to let it get me down. I can't control the shooting between American soldiers and Iraqi fighters. I can't control the shooting between Canadian troops and the Taliban. I can't control Americans, Canadians, or Koreans shooting their mouths off at me. All I can control is the scripting and lighting during my shootings of photographs and movies for mature audiences.
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