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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
An enemy of Israel is an enemy of the U.S.
Hence Iran's treatment by the American government.
It IS that simple.
Though strategic interests regarding oil supply and access also plays a role in flair ups.
This is not rocket science. |
It couldn't be cause they have been killing Americans? Or that they want to conquer the gulf or cause they kill translators of the Satanic Versus. Or cause the regime is ruled by fascist bigots?
Shipment of high explosives intercepted in Iraq
Most sophisticated of roadside bombs reportedly coming from Iran
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8829929/
9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran
Senior U.S. officials have told TIME that the 9/11 Commission's report will cite evidence suggesting that the 9/11 hijackers had previously passed through Iran
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html
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| The American military said Tuesday that it had credible evidence linking Iranians and their Iraqi associates, detained here in raids last week, to criminal activities, including attacks against American forces. Evidence also emerged that some detainees had been involved in shipments of weapons to illegal armed groups in Iraq. |
http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F0061EF635550C748EDDAB0994DE404482
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On June 25, 1996, Iran again attacked America at Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, exploding a huge truck bomb that devastated Khobar Towers and murdered 19 U.S. airmen as they rested in their dormitory. These young heroes spent every day risking their lives enforcing the no-fly zone over southern Iraq; that is, protecting Iraqi Shiites from their own murderous tyrant. When I visited this horrific scene soon after the attack, I watched dozens of dedicated FBI agents combing through the wreckage in 120-degree heat, reverently handling the human remains of our brave young men. More than 400 of our Air Force men and women were wounded in this well-planned attack, and I was humbled by their courage and spirit. I later met with the families of our lost Khobar heroes and promised that we would do whatever was necessary to bring these terrorists to American justice. The courage and dignity these wonderful families have consistently exemplified has been one of the most powerful experiences of my 26 years of public service.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003518
Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules [
Friday, May 30, 2003 Posted: 11:14 PM EDT (0314 GMT)
Marines search through the rubble for their missing comrades after the 1983 barracks bombing in Beirut, Lebanon.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Iran is responsible for the 1983 suicide bombing of a U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, that killed 241 American servicemen, a U.S. District Court judge ruled Friday.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/
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Amir Taheri: Khomeinists hammering new strategy to oust 'Great Satan'
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But at almost exactly the same time, militants from some 40 countries spread across the globe were trekking to Tehran for a 10-day "revolutionary jamboree" in which "a new strategy to confront the American Great Satan" will be hammered out. The event is scheduled to start on February 1 to mark the 25th anniversary of the return to Iran from exile of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the "Islamic Revolution".
It is not clear how many militants will attend, but the official media promise a massive turnout to underline the Islamic Republic's position as the "throbbing heart of world resistance to American arrogance."
The guest list reads like a who-is-who of global terror.
In fact, most of the organisations attending the event, labelled "Ten-Days of Dawn", are branded by the US and some European Union members as terrorist outfits. For more than two decades, Tehran has been a magnet for militant groups from many different national and ideological backgrounds.
The Islamic Republic's hospitality cuts across even religious divides. Militant Sunni organisations, including two linked to Al Qaida, Ansar al-Islam (Companions of Islam) and Hizb Islami (The Islamic Party), enjoy Iranian hospitality.
They are joined by Latin American guerrilla outfits, clandestine Irish organisations, Basque and Corsican separatists, and a variety of leftist groups from Spartacists to Trotskyites and Guevarists. Tehran is the only capital where all the Palestinian militant movements have offices and, in some cases, training and financial facilities. |
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/04/01/28/109235.html
U.S.: Top Iran officials ordering bombs to Iraq
Orders to send armor-piercing bombs came from highest levels, official says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17097658/
They support Hizzbollah who counterfeits US money and sells drugs.
They might also be behind the death squads in Iraq and inciting the violence there.
The regime also teaches hate and incites violence. One of the biggest reasons for terror is that mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence.
Maybe the reason that Iran hates the US is cause they want to conquer the mideast and they need the US out of the way to do it.
The US doesn't like Iran cause Iran won,t give up their war.
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| they want to conquer the gulf |
Why America gives a damn - besides oil - is the issue of Israel.
I agree with you on this one, as per my last post.
But the foundations of the conflict are pretty straight forward, don't you think? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| they want to conquer the gulf |
Why America gives a damn - besides oil - is the issue of Israel.
I agree with you on this one, as per my last post.
But the foundations of the conflict are pretty straight forward, don't you think? |
You last post was pretty good but it is a little more complicated than you have put it.
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Why America gives a damn - besides oil - is the issue of Israel. |
I think it is cause Iran wants to conquer the mideast and for them to do it they need the US out of the way or at least out of the area. That is why Iran is after the US.
The US just wants Iran to give up its war. Like Khaddafy sort of did.
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Why America gives a damn - besides oil - is the issue of Israel. |
You are about 70% right about why America gives a damn - besides oil - it is the issue of Israel but also cause Iran is a terrorist state that is ruled by fascistic bigots who is killing Americans
The US doesn't usually get along with those type of regimes. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| ...her article could be read two ways |
VanIslander: clearly you have given Amanpour's story and the issues it presents sober thought. I can respect that.
I see more than two ways to read not the article but Amanpour's source, which is, in my view, the centerpiece:
(a) this is black-ops/disinformation designed to cause and/or exacerbate dissention and confusion in America and Western Civ, and someone in Tehran is playing CNN;
(b) the Supreme Leader is using this source to float a balloon, so to speak, to see which way the wind might be blowing, just as many political leaders and officials do all over the world -- that is, to see how people (namely, his own base of support and those he might hope to persuade, in Tehran and Washington) might react, and, if they react badly, he can always disavow it; and
(c) this official broke ranks and spoke out of turn, as there must be, as anywhere else, multiple and complex power struggles (and power struggles within power struggles) within official Tehran. He represents one or more or a coalition of factions that feel as he himself does. He has spoken as their unofficial representative (although he may not necessarily speak for the Supreme Leader) in order to provoke developments in America and Western Civ which might prove beneficial to his interests -- whatever they may ultimately prove to be.
There are always more interpretations. But this is how I read this story. My worldview leads me to, conservatively, plan for (a) while hoping for (b). Shoud it be (c), and I hope it is not, I would be even more concerned about Tehran's nuclear ambitions. They are not ready and stable enough for such weapons in this case. Indeed, if (c) is the case, I reiterate my original question: what exactly is going on over there? |
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