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ghost

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Many congenial places
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: How much time do you devote to studying Korean per day? |
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When ghost taught in Taiwan in 2005-2006, it spent 4 months studying Mandarin at one of the local Universities for 2-3 hours per day.....but the rest of the time, when not at University, spent just 30-45 minutes per day studying Mandarin (through books, listening to cd's) and the progress made through the self taught method was much more compared with the "taught method" sitting in a class with other foreigners, most of whom had terrible Mandarin pronunciation (bless their souls!) and frankly most of the classes were simply spent transcribing Chinese characters and being tested on them....not an efficient way to learn Mandarin, at least not for ghost.
After about 4 months on the Island (Taiwan), ghost had enough Mandarin to get by in most daily situations - ordering food in restaurants, knowing all the numbers, asking for directions and making small conversation on mundane every day topics (who we are, what we are doing here, what country we are from). In fact, within that limited register, Taiwanese thought ghost was fluent in Mandarin, perhaps forgetting that ghost was only fluent in the limited range it knew, albeit enough to get by in most daily situations, including making hotel reservations on the phone in Taichung.
How about for people in Korea, how much time do you spend, on average, studying the language per day?
It seems that studying small doses of language almost every day pays much bigger dividends than studying in large chunks with breaks in between or studying twice a week for 2 hours at a time. Ghost enjoys studying languages 30-45 minutes per day...but focused study, no dilly dallying! just like exercise - a little many times a week, better than one or two massive sessions once or twice a week....
When ghost went back to Montreal to take a Mandarin course at McGill, it was head and shoulders above the others (in conversation) compared with those who had just learned Chinese characters but had trouble stringing a sentence together. But the teacher thought ghost was a maverick, because ghost had devoted time in Taiwan to learning just conversation with Pinyin (chinese romanized script). Chinese teacher at McGill felt threatened by ghost, because it was defying the 'normal' way to learn Mandarin - bottom up, starting with Chinese characters. But ghost is a firm believer that it is best first to learn a language like a child (oral) before learning the writing.
One concedes that learning the Korean alphabet is probably a lot easier compared with learning thousands of Chinese characters.
Thanks for any input on the situation in Korea.
Ghost, ESL/FSL specialist, Montreal French school board |
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gang ah jee

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Ginormousaurus

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I spend 3 hours a day at school and usually one hour out of school. |
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cruisemonkey

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SuperHero

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Not enough.
Just finished a 4 hour/day program at Sogang, but now that I'm teaching again, I'll be lucky to get in 3-4 hours a week. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| About an hour, sometimes more, sometimes less, depending.. what I need to focus on really is hanja, because I'm really back and forth with that. |
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Ginormousaurus

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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| About an hour, sometimes more, sometimes less, depending.. what I need to focus on really is hanja, because I'm really back and forth with that. |
I haven't even begun studying hanja yet. How useful do you find it? Is it worth putting in the time it takes? |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
| About an hour, sometimes more, sometimes less, depending.. what I need to focus on really is hanja, because I'm really back and forth with that. |
I haven't even begun studying hanja yet. How useful do you find it? Is it worth putting in the time it takes? |
For me it's useful for recalling some words, or solidifying their meaning in my head. On rare occasions, someone will say a word and I can understand it by thinking of the hanja, but I could probably do that anyway without knowledge of hanja. Mainly I do it for the vocab. But, like I said, my hanja studies are sporadic. I keep telling myself I'm going to start a 30 minutes-a-day regimen, which I'm sure would be much more fruitful. |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Not as much as I'd like to. I have to prioritise lesson plans @ # 1. Hangul comes in at about number 10 on the list. Maybe I'll take a course when I return to Australia? I've picked up some Hangul just from living in Korea for 10 months but not as much as I'd like to. |
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Fresh Prince

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Ghost, The Korean alphabet aka Hangul, is super easy to learn. If you haven't learned it yet, then buy a cheap book for $10 and memorize it on the plane. Almost everyone I've met has been able to learn it in less than two hours.
OK, I understand that some people are good at some things and bad at others. Maybe it's tough for some people to learn alphabets. Once you get to Korea, you can go to any college and take a beginning Korean course. They will teach you the alphabet and how to say basic stuff for around $400 or less. |
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ghost

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Many congenial places
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: The answer |
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| Fresh Prince wrote: |
Ghost, The Korean alphabet aka Hangul, is super easy to learn. If you haven't learned it yet, then buy a cheap book for $10 and memorize it on the plane. Almost everyone I've met has been able to learn it in less than two hours.
OK, I understand that some people are good at some things and bad at others. Maybe it's tough for some people to learn alphabets. Once you get to Korea, you can go to any college and take a beginning Korean course. They will teach you the alphabet and how to say basic stuff for around $400 or less. |
Thanks for the answer.
Ghost felt really challenged to memorize Chinese characters. Hope it is not the same thing with Korean Hangul.
Thanks for the advice.
Chris |
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