Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

What is racism?
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:53 am    Post subject: What is racism? Reply with quote

I thought I knew, but some of the ideas that come up on this board are starting to confuse me. I've seen xenophobia, specific countries, religion and, even, being from a certain area of a country used as the definition. A little bit ago, I read a poster speculating that CPA is (was?) racist. I never got that impression - a rose-colored-glasses wearing apologist, at best, a troll, at worst, but not a racist.

Often it seems that people cry racism just to shut another poster up.

What bothers me, and it gets back to the old grammar/spelling/punctuation argument, when you use the term racist loosely, you cheapen it. It's a bad thing and shouldn't be thrown around.

God knows there is racism and it's probably not going away any time soon. I've seen it on this board today, but today I've seen things written and opinions about racism that are so far from any real definition of racism, that I question if some people do know what it is.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
today I've seen things written and opinions about racism that are so far from any real definition of racism, that I question if some people do know what it is.

Since it's your thread, and you don't like the way "racism" has been used today, can you provide us with "any real definition of racism"?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racism: the belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

discrimination or prejudice based on race.


another definition:-

the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races.

discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race.


so basically what happened to me on the subway the other night by a korean male who should have known better. also what happened to derreck when he was "just walking along minding his own business". also what happened to the black english teacher guy when he was called a "monkey" and ended up in a fight.....

to name just three cases out of many more. all this by people, a race that is classed as advanced, who should really know better.

or am i being racist in my wide, sweeping generilsation of a race of people? my apologies if anybody thinks i am.....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
William Beckerson
Guest




PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:58 am    Post subject: Re: What is racism? Reply with quote

gypsyfish wrote:

Often it seems that people cry racism just to shut another poster up.

Do you mean Coffecup and Gollum?

Gollum is is an ignorant boob, and Coffecup is using "reverse racism" as an excuse to support his bigotry. And they're both in Liberal Arts Degree territory, so they should have some pretty good reasons to be so stupid. The thing is, they dont. They post their crap, and then when it gets decimated, they use insults to shut their critics up.

Quote:
What bothers me, and it gets back to the old grammar/spelling/punctuation argument, when you use the term racist loosely, you cheapen it. It's a bad thing and shouldn't be thrown around.

Their arguments were based on the idea that africans and arabs were violent and unintelligent due to their race. That makes it racist.

Pretty simple, huh?
Back to top
Squid



Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Anyang

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coffeecup and Gollum: Two dogs fighting over a piece of s*it (The Korean saying).

Squid
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another irritating aspect of this issue is the lack of a clear definition of 'race' itself.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then aren't we all part of the human race? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: What is racism? Reply with quote

William Beckerson wrote:
Their arguments were based on the idea that africans and arabs were violent and unintelligent due to their race. That makes it racist.


Hmm....I don't really want to get involved in this...but oh well, I will. I'm not defending any posters by any means here, but I disagree. I think the idea about Africans and Arabs is making a generalization based on a stereotype, and let us not forget that stereotypes are very *often* based on truth. Stereotypes exist for a reason....our survival instinct kicks in. It would be racist if someone said whites were better than africans and arabs. But I didn't see anyone here saying that so....

I think we are all too quick to see racism, homophobia, etc. where they don't NECESSARILY exist--at least not in their purest form.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rascism is an atittude that is accepted by one group against another because it's the thing to do. Like the white South Africans former apartheid against the blacks, or the rest of the world's anti semitic feelings about the jews.

Last edited by Medic on Mon Sep 15, 2003 6:29 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: What is racism? Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
It would be racist if someone said whites were better than africans and arabs. But I didn't see anyone here saying that so....



May I direct your attention to the thread on Africans and arabs in itaweon? And Foreigners grouped together, or whatever its called?

Seems to me Coffee cup feels that africans (and blacks) are more prone to violence than other races. That, I'm afraid, fits the bill as racism since he is, in fact, saying whites are better than africans (less violent and all).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
William Beckerson
Guest




PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: What is racism? Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
let us not forget that stereotypes are very *often* based on truth.


Like:

- Black men are all sexual supermen?

- White men cant jump?

- Asian guys are all good at math and have small weiners?

- Arabs are all flying-jets-into-skyscrapers terrorists?

- Republicans are dirty liars?