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YIKES! KOREAN TEXTBOOK GOES WAY OF JAPANESE TEXTBOOKS
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: YIKES! KOREAN TEXTBOOK GOES WAY OF JAPANESE TEXTBOOKS Reply with quote

This just off the A.P. wire:

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Anti-Jewish cartoon angers L.A. Koreans Sat Feb 24, 10:05 PM ET

Korean-American community leaders said they plan to launch a protest against the publisher of a popular South Korean comic book that contains anti-Semitic images.

One comic strip in the book shows a man climbing a hill and then facing a brick wall with a Star of David and "STOP" sign in front. "The final obstacle to success is always a fortress called Jews," a translation says.

Another strip shows a newspaper, magazine, TV and radio with the description: "In a word, American public debate belongs to the Jews, and it's no exaggeration to say that U.S. media are the voice of the Jews."

Yohngsohk Choe, co-chairman of the Korean American Patriotic Action Movement in the USA, said, "I don't have words to describe the outrage I feel."

The group met Friday with Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish advocacy group. Cooper said he would travel to Seoul on March 15 to raise concerns about the book.

The book, written by South Korean university professor Lee Won-bok, is part of a series called "Distant Countries and Neighboring Countries," which is intended to teach youngsters about other countries. The series has sold more than 10 million copies.

Eun-Ju Park, chief executive of Seoul publisher Gimm-Young, said in an e-mail that the author sent an apology to Charles Kim, national president of the Los Angeles-based Korean-American Coalition.

Park wrote that she would look into the matter "more closely and correct what needs to be corrected."


This incident ought to go a long way toward advancing Korea's image as an outward looking nation. Rolling Eyes
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Smee



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's disgusting. This topic has been in a number of posts on this board.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=78305
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=79627


Another new development in K-education:

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The Education Ministry announced yesterday it will revise high school history textbooks shifting the Bronze Age on the Korean Peninsula one millennium ahead.
The government's decision was made amid China's apparent attempts to downplay Korea's ancient period as the communist country has claimed Korean ancient kingdoms as Chinese history.

The revised textbooks will be distributed nationwide in March, accepting Korean historians' claims that the current history books carry misinformation on the dawn of the milestone period in civilization's development.

The new textbooks will illustrate the Bronze Age on the peninsula as from B.C. 2,000 to B.C. 1,500, which is one millennium earlier than the years in current history textbooks.



http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/02/24/200702240040.asp
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee:

Thanks for the heads-up. Didn't notice it had been threaded. Apologies to YuBumsik and JeJitSu. Didn't mean to usurp their posts.

Let me take a different angle on this sordid affair.

How could a South Korean professor put his name to this sort of rubbish? Moreover, how could the editorial board ignore it?

Jingoism is on the rise throughout East Asia, I'm afraid. Korean claims to civilization demonstrate their insecurity; it is well established that Chinese civilization not only predates it but contributed to it. But then the Japanese are in denial on that score too. Well, then again, as my thread title hints at, there is a coterie of rightwing professors in Japan who are still whitewashing Japanese wartime atrocities in China.

Of course, the French and Russian press slips on this issue from time to time too. Anti-semitism is alive and well it would seem. Small surprise then that Israeli foreign policy is so quick to be called into question in Europe and elsewhere. The Israelis still do not have a real embassy in Beijing either. They operate from an office in the World Trade Center. Pathetic.
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kaizer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gyopos should stfu.
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Passions



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does this concern Korean-Americans? Why do they get all their panties bunched up because of it? Rolling Eyes
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many schools was this 'textbook' being used in, stevemcgarrett?
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doggyji



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

먼나라 이웃나라 series? They are not textbooks.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, since when did these become text books??
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they're not textbooks, they're essentially big comic books. But they're apparently very popular ("best-sellers" they've been called) and I recall seeing them in stores everywhere for just ages. When were they first published? I may be mistaking them with a different series, but I seem to remember seeing the title in the '90s.

So, why wasn't a big stink made over this book before now? Well, part of it is the question of Where do you begin? There are plenty of publications bound to raise hackles, this is just one. Prevoiusly, there just weren't many whiteys taking an interest in what Koreans said or wrote amongst themselves. A lot of the really, really old-timers were/are often patronising, but ultimately more forgiving of a lot of the crap Koreans get up to. No-one was calling them on it. That seems to be changing, however.

But still, these things take time, and note that it was't the Koreans -- who've had a decade to consider 먼나라 이웃나라 -- who blew this particular whistle, was it? (Why doesn't VANK look into such things if they truly care about Korea's international image?) And the Korean-American group, whatever they're saying, seem up in arms not over the book being offensive to Jews, but rather out of fear of a potential fall-out for them that the negative publicity over the book may cause. And it's funny, is it not, that the Korean publisher apologises to the Korean-American group (presumably for the difficulties the book may cause THEM) rather to a Jewish-American organisation. They appear as clueless in their attempts to solve the problem as they were in recognising the problem in the first place.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading that it's sold over 10 million copies.
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Demonicat



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

**Rant Warning**

How many of you have books with Africans being described as people with bones through their noses, or wearing loincloths?
How many of you have books with Native Americans (American Indians) being shown wearing featherhats and living in teepees?
How many...add other classic rascist thing seen everyday...

It has happened to almost every race here, that they get insulted a little bit. Hell, it happens in the US too- remember Speedy Gonzales, or the two crows on Hanna Barbara? Why is it that whenever anyone in the world makes an anti-semitic comment, the world goes up in arms? Hell, why is Mel Gibson being crucified over the passion? Or his drunken slurs? The man also insulted the police, Los Angeles, and damn near everyone else- but those were just the booze talking.
I should mention that I im in no way anti-semitic, but the fact remains that in this world you can do no worse than make fun of jews. If you do, the world will come down on you. Hmm, maybe they do control the media.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
No, they're not textbooks, they're essentially big comic books.

I'm somehow not surprised that stevemcgarrett can't distinguish between the two.
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has made international news, in both the International Herald Tribune and CNN.

Anti-Semitic comic book in Korea stirs anger in the U.S.

Korean comic author: Jews rule U.S.

And as Smee pointed out, this has been the topic of two previous threads.

I'm wondering why an apology was sent to the Korean-American community and not to some actual Jewish people.

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In case you would like to see for yourself some of the offending images and its translated caption ...


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A series of cartoons in the America volume of �Far Country, Neighbor Country� saying the reason Arab terrorists hate the U.S. and carried out the Sept. 11, 2001 attack is because �Jews use money and public discussion as weapons to make WASPs do what they want.�
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the 9-11 stuff in the first edition? If so, then this obviously isn't the same series of books I recall seeing 10 years ago. Still, I have definitely seen 먼나라 이웃나라 at plenty of bookshops for several years, the most recent time being at the airport. So when this story broke, the title, at least, was immediately familiar. I'd never perused the books, though I think even if I had, I may not have been particularly shocked.
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean Martin:

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And it's funny, is it not, that the Korean publisher apologises to the Korean-American group (presumably for the difficulties the book may cause THEM) rather to a Jewish-American organisation. They appear as clueless in their attempts to solve the problem as they were in recognising the problem in the first place.


That's what I was alluding to when I questioned the editorial board's judgment. It is a point well taken. However, it might be more accurate to say that Korean Americans cared at least as much about their own public image as Jewish Americans' personal reactions. Once again concern for saving face because of recrimination overrides a genuine sense of guilt among East Asians.

gang ah jee:

10 million copies sold were reportedly sold. My source referred to them as textbooks but apparently they are comic books. Either way, condoning the publication of such materials, particularly with a professor as author, is reprehensible to say the least.

Demonicat:

Thanks for the rant warning but it doesn't absolve you from responsibility for clueless posting. Name me one American publisher nowadays that prints blatantly racist material. Among Mexican Americans, the "debate" is unresolved over whether Speedy Gonzales is a racial slur, I might add. Regardless, to accept your point means to acknowledge that Korean society is far behind the times.
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