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daskalos

Joined: 19 May 2006
Location: The Road to Ithaca

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:58 am Post subject:

Of course this news, if true, just guts my favorite Easter joke. Well, guts it or justifies it. In any case, far less funny than it used to be. Did you hear they cancelled Easter? No! Yeah, they found the body.

ED209

Joined: 17 Oct 2006

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:17 am Post subject:

flakfizer wrote:

Speaking of ridiculous, I think you meant "cymbals," genius.

Ha, ha. Guess that's why I'm teaching in Korea.

Hollywoodaction

Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject:

Troll_Bait wrote:

If that's really Jesus' DNA, then they could clone him! Shocked

The scriptures say that Jesus would return. Maybe this is how.

"Jurassic Park," move over, 'cause you've got nothing on this.

Edit:

Scholars, clergymen criticize Jesus documentary by famed Canadian filmmaker

Further Edit:

Israeli expert quashes film claim about Jesus tomb

Yeah, and finally all those Christians will realize he wasn't a white guy with blue eyes.

Hollywoodaction

Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject:

Rteacher wrote:

I think that this book is probably closer to the truth (based on the premise that Jesus had traveled to India as a youth, had mastered mystic yoga, and was absorbed in complete samadhi - and therefore was only apparently killed on the cross ...)

This masterful work presents irrefutable evidence that Jesus Christ survived the crucifixion, escaped from Roman Judea, traveled eastward, and took up residence in Kashmir, India, where he probably had a family and lived to the age of 120 years.
He is buried under the Rozabal mausoleum in the Kan Yar section of Srinagar, Kashmir, India. The Rozabal is a large structure, still intact, and visited by people from around the world.

The best summary of work in this field. Thirty pictures and charts include actual Sanskrit, Tibetan and Persian language documents-with full English translations- that clearly and explicitly record the sojourn of Jesus Christ after the crucifixion ...
This masterful work presents irrefutable evidence that Jesus Christ survived the crucifixion, escaped from Roman Judea, traveled eastward, and took up residence in Kashmir, India, where he probably had a family and lived to the age of 120 years.
He is buried under the Rozabal mausoleum in the Kan Yar section of Srinagar, Kashmir, India. The Rozabal is a large structure, still intact, and visited by people from around the world.

The best summary of work in this field. Thirty pictures and charts include actual Sanskrit, Tibetan and Persian language documents-with full English translations- that clearly and explicitly record the sojourn of Jesus Christ after the crucifixion...
http://www.geocities.com/emerging.geo/savior.html

Here's a picture of that tomb (from another site...)

http://www.thoughtsnmemories.net/jesustomb.htm

Yeah, I thought this was supposed to be his tomb.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject:

All they can try to do is use mitochondrial DNA to see if the people buried there are in any way related. So they could look at the "Jesus" and "Mary Magdalene" remains and see if they are related or not, and if not then they can infer thet they were a couple. They can look at the relationships of all those in the tomb: biologically related or not...but thats all they can do.

Teufelswacht

Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Rteacher wrote:

http://www.thoughtsnmemories.net/jesustomb.htm

Yeah, I thought this was supposed to be his tomb.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one who read that book.

So by my rough count, via the internet, we have Jesus:

1. Buried in a tomb in Jerusalem
2. Buried under a building in Kashmir
3. Buried in Japan
4. Resurrected and ascending into heaven
5. Buried in a grave yard for criminals, dug up by wild dogs, and eaten
6. Left to rot on the cross the birds ate his body and his bones scattered
7. Didn't exist anyways so what's the big deal?

Yep, clears it up for me....

Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

jinju wrote:

Rteacher wrote:

Being impaled on a cross is something that en empowered son of God with full mystic powers could easily survive ... There are many different interpretations, including this one, which has him passing away in Rome in his 70s...

Dude, nobody was IMPALED on a cross....impaling was a TOOOOOOOOOOOOTALY different thing.

Exactly. That's what the Christians did to the non believers.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus was impaled on a stake.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

Bramble wrote:

mindmetoo wrote:

jinju wrote:

Rteacher wrote:

Dude, nobody was IMPALED on a cross....impaling was a TOOOOOOOOOOOOTALY different thing.

Exactly. That's what the Christians did to the non believers.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus was impaled on a stake.

But not on a cross. Jehova's witnesses are worthless vile shits.

Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject:

Bramble wrote:

Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus was impaled on a stake.

According to some extra-Biblical references, Jesus was hung, not crucified. However, the execution method was changed to crucifiction because it was more dramatic and allowed the pre-Christian cross to become a potent symbol of the new religion. Even in the Bible itself, there are several references to Jesus being hung, not crucified.

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Was Jesus hung on a tree?

The New Testament uses the word tree five times to refer to Christ's crucifixion on a cross. The references are found in Acts 5:30, 10:39, 13:29, Galatians 3:13 and 1 Peter 2:24. Most of the time, the noun stauros (stake) and the verb stauroo (crucify) are used in connection with Jesus Christ's death. These two words appear 74 times in the New Testament.

One of the five appearances of tree occurs in the book of Galatians. "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us," wrote Paul, "for it is written: `Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree"' (Galatians 3:13). In this case, Paul was quoting a phrase found in Deuteronomy 21:23.

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What kind of cross?

The New Testament word cross is a translation of the Greek word stauros. The word referred to any upright wooden stake firmly fixed in the ground. A stauros could serve a variety of purposes as, for example, a pole in a picket fence.

Unfortunately, the word stauros also represented a pointed stake used for impalement of human beings. This was an ancient form of punishment used to publicly display the bodies of executed criminals. The Assyrians, for example, used impalement to execute deserters, captured enemies and rebels. Sometimes they displayed the corpses or heads impaled on stakes.

However, the Greek words stauros (stake) and stauroo (crucifixion) do not convey the exact technical form of execution. That is, to be executed by crucifixion was not the same as being hung on a simple upright stake.

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NAVFC

Joined: 10 May 2006

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject:

Oh please. it is common knowledge that the method of execution at the time was crucifixion. Crucifixion wasnt just something special they thought of for Jesus but it was the norm. there were two thieves with him. The romans did it that way.

jinju

Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject:

Hung on a treee...hey, troll bait, just what do you think crosses were made out of? Aluminum? Steel or, wood?

Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject:

That's really cool, Troll Bait. Thanks for the info.

igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:31 am Post subject:

Teufelswacht wrote:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Rteacher wrote:

[color=darkblue]This masterful work presents irrefutable evidence that Jesus Christ survived the crucifixion, escaped from Roman Judea, traveled eastward, and took up [b]residence in Kashmir, India, where he probably had a family and lived to the age of 120 years.
He is buried under the Rozabal mausoleum in the Kan Yar section of Srinagar, Kashmir, India. The Rozabal is a large structure, still intact, and visited by people from around the world.

The best summary of work in this field. Thirty pictures and charts include actual Sanskrit, Tibetan and Persian language documents-with full English translations- that clearly and explicitly record the sojourn of Jesus Christ after the crucifixion ...

http://www.geocities.com/emerging.geo/savior.html

Here's a picture of that tomb (from another site...)

http://www.thoughtsnmemories.net/jesustomb.htm

Yeah, I thought this was supposed to be his tomb.

I'm skeptical of James Cameron's claim.

Srinigar KASHMIR is far more plausible Idea

Read Holger Kersten's "JESUS LIVE IN INDIA"

YUZ ASAF.

http://www.tombofjesus.com/

Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:36 am Post subject:

NAVFC wrote:

Oh please. it is common knowledge that the method of execution at the time was crucifixion. Crucifixion wasnt just something special they thought of for Jesus but it was the norm. there were two thieves with him. The romans did it that way.

People usually picture Jesus' crucifiction like this:

However, it may have looked more like this:

Reference

While crucifixion was a preferred method of execution of the Romans, the Jews favoured hanging, especially for people who were considered contemptible (because it offered anyone who wanted to the chance the spit on or hit the condemned person).

Why the strong reaction? How can one explain these passages?

Acts 5:30

"The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

Acts 10:39

"And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree."

Acts 13:29

"And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre."

Galatians 3:13

"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree."

1 Peter 2:24

"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed."

All of these are King James Version, but if you would like to see other translations, you can go to the Online Parallel Bible.

And being executed between two thieves seems to be something common to some other god-men/saviours, such as Horus.

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Reference Two

Hollywoodaction

Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:16 am Post subject:

jinju wrote:

All they can try to do is use mitochondrial DNA to see if the people buried there are in any way related. So they could look at the "Jesus" and "Mary Magdalene" remains and see if they are related or not, and if not then they can infer thet they were a couple. They can look at the relationships of all those in the tomb: biologically related or not...but thats all they can do.

It wouldn't prove anything. The 'Mary Magdelene' could just as well be the daughter-in-law of the 'Jesus'.

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