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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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regicide:
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| You are a moron without a cause, McGarrett. Now, you have a been a good boy lately, why don't you crawl back into your hole. |
Gee, such harsh words from a man who whined to the forum moderator about my planted news story last month. All bark and no bite, Reggie. I didn't write recently because I was touring India and Thailand.
Revealing how you posted immediately following my own post. Hmm... |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Post your wildest conspiricy theory. |
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I hadn't. Just did.
DAMN... there's so much evidence, from the firefighters, to experts, to basic science, to witnesses that
(a) whatever hit the Pentagon it was not the passenger plane officially reported by the government!
(b) there were multiple explosions prior to the tower collapses
Those facts cannot be ignored or undermined. And they get the mind racing. Everything else, including the coincidences and puzzling info, on that video can be explained away or questioned, but those two facts remain.
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bull bull bull.. Only crack pots have but main stream scientists and such have all agreed, the burning planes brought the towers down and a plane hit the pentagon (where else did that flight go? and why were remains of the dead found there?) |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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regicide:
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| You are a moron without a cause, McGarrett. Now, you have a been a good boy lately, why don't you crawl back into your hole. |
Gee, such harsh words from a man who whined to the forum moderator about my planted news story last month. All bark and no bite, Reggie. I didn't write recently because I was touring India and Thailand.
Revealing how you posted immediately following my own post. Hmm... |
I didn't say anything to the moderator , she picked up on it herself. What are you talking about? Anyway , a normal person would be ashamed of that and not keep bringing it up. And as I have repeatedly stated, I wrote over your story and explained that Teddy was taken care of at Chappaquiddick. And you idiot, of course my post was directly related to your post. You are clueless.
You never make any sense. As I said: A moron without a cause. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I am not an expert on the JFK theories, but I have read enough to realize that there are holes in the Warren Commission account, and some patently off the wall stories coming from conspiracy theorists.
But I did come across something the other day that put the matter in a whole new light. Just google the names here and you will find more interesting details, as well as some less credible stuff:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0453015/bio
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKkilgallen.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKsmithF.htm
I think it is a mistake to ridicule either side in this discussion. Sometimes we must live with uncertainty. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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And now I will offer my own entry in the category of conspiracy theories of the absurd for your amusement and edification:
The preposterous idea that a semi-illiterate person named William Shakespeare, who was unable to spell his name the same way twice on the half-dozen documents actually belonging to him, could have written the plays and sonnets attributed to same, without spell check.
As Henry James put it:
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| “I am … haunted by the conviction that the divine William is the biggest and most successful fraud ever practiced on a patient world.” |
Yet conventional thinkers such as Harold Bloom, professor at Yale, are still capable of writing 750 page biographies on the premise that Shakespeare was Shakespeare.
There are many people who have looked at the evidence and believe it clearly points to one man, Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford.
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“I think Oxford wrote Shakespeare. If you don’t agree, there are some awfully funny coincidences to explain away…”
-Orson Welles
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There is nothing new here, of course. This idea was first widely presented in 1920 by (believe it or not) a fellow named J. Thomas Looney. (Insert your own witticisms here.)
The question of authorship took a whole new turn with the publication in 2001 of "Oxford, Son of Queen Elizabeth I," by Paul Streitz.
Streitz maintains that de Vere, aka Shakespeare, was actually the son of Elizabeth, the result of rape by her legal guardian during her adolescence before she became queen.
De Vere was raised under the guardianship of Lord Burghley, Elizabeth's closest adviser, and given an annual allowance as an adult of the equivalent of $6 million. For this, he had not particular duties, but he did write and produce plays for the royal court, which somehow managed to antiicipate the subjects and plots of plays later attributed to Shakespeare. Burghley also allowed de Vere to marry his daughter.
Elizabeth, unmarried and childless, had no official royal heir, a fact that terrified a Parliament fearful that the death of the Protestant queen might be followed by a Catholic relative, or worse, invasion by Catholic Spain or France. Yet she repeatedly quashed bills by Parliament to specifiy some means of succession.
Apparently, she did have a secret heir: de Vere, who made allusions to this in his private writings, a treasonous act punishable by death, if false.
In order to avoid embarrasing the royal court with plays critical of the queen's ancestors, "William Shakespeare" was adopted as his pen name.
There were hints within the image manufactured of Shakespeare that it was a fraud. For example, a commonly used portrait of Shakespeare has an unnaturally high forehead that makes it look like he is wearing a mask, and the seams of his coat look like it was put on backwards. At the time, perhaps, the myth was only intended to be taken half-seriously.
How do you get a conspiracy to disquise the true authorship? Simple, if you have the power of the royal court, led by Lord Burghley, behind it. Remember, these were days before even lip service to "freedom of the press." Anyone with a printing press who published ideas at odds with the official royal interests could wind up out of business, or worse.
Read Paul Streitz' book and judge for yourself.
And speaking of conspiracies, did you know that John Dee, a close advisor to Queen Elizabeth, was also believed to be a spy working for her and managed by Lord Burghley. His secret code name was 007. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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regicide:
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| Anyway , a normal person would be ashamed of that and not keep bringing it up. |
You, of course, have never posted a thread to be ashamed of. Yours are always on the up and up.  |
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English_Ocean
Joined: 17 Mar 2006
Location: You don't have the right to abuse me!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Post your wildest conspiricy theory.
The US is developing technology in which it can effectively knock out a countries defence system. This device does not have to be blasted into space, rather it works by going though earth's core to reach it's intended target.
Another one: The US is not in fear of asteroids. They are developing ways in which they can direct any asteroid toward an earthly target. 
Another one: Religious icons were created centuries ago as a way to control the masses and yet there was something left undone. Fear. So, the thinkers of the times inserted UFO images into the religious icons for later use.
And the greatest show on earth: The Bermuda triangle. What a great disappearing act! If something goes wrong just send it to Bermuda and watch it vanish. Or is it a way to keep the masses away from some secret base?I'm sure it has a convient purpose.
I think I've got too much free time! |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| There's no such thing as conspiracies. |
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Bondrock
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Location: ^_^
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| i heard that conspiricy is not the actual spelling.... but then again, i grew up in the sixties... |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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"Queen Elizabeth wrote the plays attributed to Shakespeare."
"She couldn't have. They were written from a man's point of view."
"Ah, yes, but Queen Elizabeth was really a man!" |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitarbutnotaneducation:
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| There's no such thing as conspiracies. |
Great exercise of grammatical skills there, buddy. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
regicide:
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| You are a moron without a cause, McGarrett. Now, you have a been a good boy lately, why don't you crawl back into your hole. |
Gee, such harsh words from a man who whined to the forum moderator about my planted news story last month. All bark and no bite, Reggie. I didn't write recently because I was touring India and Thailand.
Revealing how you posted immediately following my own post. Hmm... |
You are too good for this place. Thus, this too typical Dave's Load is not worth your time.
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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