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Reasons not to give invites to trackers
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seed 1.5 then by by. If its a movie I usually download it watch it and erase it. Unless its a good movie then I keep it.. If its a tv show I just delete it.
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on TV shows I seed for 6-8 hrs.. watch it and delete it. I easily keep a ratio over 3. It is inexcusable to have a low ratio while living in a country which has such fast broadband.

rss feed helps a lot to jump on and complete torrents fast which maximizes upload availability.
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mytime wrote:
wow, are you serious?
I download a movie when i go to bed and it finishes after a few hours and I let it seed for twice the time it downloads, then i watch it and delete it because I dont have much space


I'd say you shouldn't be using torrents then. I have files on Oink that I've been seeding for over a month. Big deal....I have so much bandwidth in Korea that I couldn't care at all. Hard drives are cheap...much cheaper than if you were buying all the media you're getting.

Most of the people I've invited to sites have held good ratios but there's always a few that generally suck. I wish I could delete their accounts.

Also, Demonoid is easily the easiest private tracker to upload to...you have no idea.....
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splok



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can never get demonoid's tracker to properly update my ratio. My isp randomly disconnects every little while while running a torent client, so I assume that's what's hosing me on ratio. I leave things seeded forever and should probably have a ratio in the mid hundreds, but even after doing all of the things on its faq, my ratio gets no love. I think the ratio that it reports for me is still quite good (luckly my downloads are reported as infrequently as my uploads heh), but its hugely (as in, uploads are probably off by 20x or more) inaccurate.
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smogdonkey



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, seed when you can. Some people can't all the time. I can seed about 5 gigs of stuff at a time, because of the space limitations of my laptop HD. I have some extra space on my external, but when I seed from that, the thing purrs all damn night.

It's kind of ironic to debate the moral dos and don'ts of thievery, don't you think? It's like a traffic jam... when you're already late.

Ratios are bogus anyway. Leaving a new popular movie up will get you a good ratio, but it's borderline unnecessary with all the other seeders. Leave up the good shit that someone might be searching for a long time for, and you get no cred, but it's obv. more valuable to the 'community'.

You can't logically tell someone to buy a hard drive just so other people can download from you, can you?
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Anyong Bluth



Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Location: Robbers' Roost

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasons not to give invites to trackers Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
I thought I would look through my list of who I invited to see how many of the expats that I invited invited were doing. These are the ones that I know for sure are expats from here... and on the "other site"





That joseywales is doing a good job keeping his ratio up for you, conqueror. Surely you could have no gripe with him?
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasons not to give invites to trackers Reply with quote

Anyong Bluth wrote:
skconqueror wrote:
I thought I would look through my list of who I invited to see how many of the expats that I invited invited were doing. These are the ones that I know for sure are expats from here... and on the "other site"





That joseywales is doing a good job keeping his ratio up for you, conqueror. Surely you could have no gripe with him?


him and camel are good ones (an inspiration). Wink
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smogdonkey wrote:


It's kind of ironic to debate the moral dos and don'ts of thievery, don't you think? It's like a traffic jam... when you're already late.



Odd analogy. Question

Anyhow, even criminals have a code of conduct. If it were simple theft, where it every man for himself, then I would agree. However, what we are talking about here is sharing the prizes; this is a fundamental part of the idea. When your download is finished, you have a responsibility to share to a reasonable ratio, longer if you can.

Rare files, I leave up indefinitely; I could care about my ratio on those...you are doijg a service leaving them up. Popular files will keep you in the black.
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smogdonkey



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I wasn't making an analogy, just reciting lyrics to a horrible song that popped in to my head when I said something was ironic. I was horribly drunk at the time.

I know there is a code of conduct, and I didn't discredit it, I just found it ironic. Every thinking being has a code of conduct in every social (and often anti-social) interaction it faces in life (with the possible exception of the early morning adjummas on the subway).

I just disagree with the statement, "I'd say you shouldn't be using torrents then." How about this one (I'm hung over instead of drunk now): that's like saying to a fellow looter, "you can't take that TV unless you hold the door open for the next guy, even if that means buying an expensive doorstop." Perhaps the decent thing to do, but still funny. Downloading, for me, is as much about saving money as it is about convenience, I don't want to save every movie file I download for eternity, or even longer than is reasonable or annoying to me.

I can't imagine how sh*tty life would be if I had to pay for all of my music while I live in Korea.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smogdonkey wrote:


I just disagree with the statement, "I'd say you shouldn't be using torrents then." How about this one (I'm hung over instead of drunk now): that's like saying to a fellow looter, "you can't take that TV unless you hold the door open for the next guy, even if that means buying an expensive doorstop." Perhaps the decent thing to do, but still funny.


At the risk of being pedantic, I still don't get the expensive doorstop part. I think it would be better to think of holding the door open when there's the chance the cops might drive by and see you.

Wink

Anyhow, yeah, we have to give for what we get. It only means not deleting the file for a period of time and leaving the computer on for a while. If you are running out of space, well, it's understandable to a certain point, but it doesn't change the fact that one would then be solely a leecher.

I seed on the weekends, when I leave the computer on 24 hours.
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smogdonkey



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy he quoted said he shared for 2x the download time, because of limited HD space. Similarly, I'd have to buy a new laptop HD to conveniently share a lot of my files all the time, which would be the expensive doorstop, because we'd have to spend money to help other people steal after us. I should just give up anyway, no worries.

When I come back in late May I'll buy a new desktop, then I'll play by the rules, k?

Also, I'll be on here asking about specifics for a new rig. My PC knowledge is intermediate, as I haven't built a PC in about 6 years, so I'm quite outdated on a lot of specifics. I won't bother asking now, because who knows what will be true in 3 months.
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