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Adventurer

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Young Jews walk out on religious life |
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Last Updated: Friday, 2 March 2007, 13:55 GMT
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Young Jews walk out on religious life
By Martin Patience
BBC News, Kiryat Tivon
As a member of the Jewish ultra-Orthodox community, David wore a long black coat and a black hat covering his Jewish skullcap.
He spent 10 hours a day studying the Torah, the Jewish holy book, and the Talmud, rabbinical discussions on Jewish law, ethics and customs.
David says that he used to want to be a rabbi - but that was then.
Ultra-orthodox Jews represent some 8% of Israel's population
Now, David, 24, wears blue jeans and loose-fitting T-shirts. He no longer believes in religion, saying that he is completely secular.
He is currently at university and hopes to become an engineer.
But during leave, he had nowhere to go. An organisation which supports young people leaving religious communities provided David with a surrogate family.
It was difficult. "I left the community without any tools to start my new life," he says.
But David appears happy with his new life and says he has no regrets.
"I see the ultra-Orthodox as fundamentalists," he says. "And now I'm leading an enlightened life."
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jinju
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Good. He woke up. 10 hours a day reading the Torah and Talmud? What a waste of a life.
You know, if I was God and I created the human race I would be pretty damn pissed they were wasting their life on reading books about me instead of living the life I gave them. |
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ED209
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
Good. He woke up. 10 hours a day reading the Torah and Talmud? What a waste of a life.
You know, if I was God and I created the human race I would be pretty damn pissed they were wasting their life on reading books about me instead of living the life I gave them. |
I never RTFM  |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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ED209 wrote: |
jinju wrote: |
Good. He woke up. 10 hours a day reading the Torah and Talmud? What a waste of a life.
You know, if I was God and I created the human race I would be pretty damn pissed they were wasting their life on reading books about me instead of living the life I gave them. |
I never RTFM  |
rtfm? |
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Adventurer

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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He cursed the Talmud. RTFM, Jinju, stands for I never read the f'in Talmud. That's my guess. I am sure, anyway, he learned something from the Talmud, the fellow how read it, and I am sure he learned discipline which helped him in the army and engineering school, but expecting Jewry to spend so many hours contemplating the Talmud is not the way to use the population in a productive way. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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RTFM, Jinju, stands for I never read the f'in Talmud. |
Shouldn't that be RTFT, then? |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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