| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
|
 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: Do as I say, not as I do: USA |
 |
|
Title says it all:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6414197.stm
| Quote: |
New nuclear warhead design for US
The Bush administration has selected the design for America's first new nuclear warhead in nearly two decades.
US officials say the warhead will not add to the country's nuclear arsenal, but will replace existing missiles.
Critics have complained it sends the wrong signal at a time when the White House is leading efforts to curb Iran and North Korea's nuclear ambitions.
The chosen design was developed in a Californian laboratory and is based on a warhead already tested in the 1980s.
The US Congress authorised design work on a new warhead in 2005 on the basis that there would not be any fresh missile tests.
No nuclear underground tests have been conducted since a ban in 1992.
The new warhead, due to be operational in five years' time, will be used to replace Trident missiles on submarines. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Do as I say, not as I do: USA |
|
|
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
Title says it all:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6414197.stm
| Quote: |
New nuclear warhead design for US
The Bush administration has selected the design for America's first new nuclear warhead in nearly two decades.
US officials say the warhead will not add to the country's nuclear arsenal, but will replace existing missiles.
Critics have complained it sends the wrong signal at a time when the White House is leading efforts to curb Iran and North Korea's nuclear ambitions.
The chosen design was developed in a Californian laboratory and is based on a warhead already tested in the 1980s.
The US Congress authorised design work on a new warhead in 2005 on the basis that there would not be any fresh missile tests.
No nuclear underground tests have been conducted since a ban in 1992.
The new warhead, due to be operational in five years' time, will be used to replace Trident missiles on submarines. |
|
They are REPLACING warheads. Iran and North Korean are BUILDING them. Big difference in maintaining your defensive arsenal as opposed to increasing it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Title says it all... |
Octavius: would you feel safer knowing that these people were updating and advancing their photon torpedos...
or knowing that these people intended to build the Death Star...?
And why are you arguing that it is so unfair that the Federation is objecting to the Emperor's building the Death Star...? Hmm...? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Limp wristed Octavius strikes again |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Gopher wrote: |
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Title says it all... |
Octavius: would you feel safer knowing that these people were updating and advancing their photon torpedos...
or knowing that these people intended to build the Death Star...?
And why are you arguing that it is so unfair that the Federation is objecting to the Emperor's building the Death Star...? Hmm...? |
Well done, Gopher. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
What will they do with the old missiles?
I've got a few contacts who'd be very interested in picking them up at a reasonable price 
Why does Darth Vader and the Emperor look like they are getting married?
(That's the real threat 'Gay Marriage'!) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I see the right-wing coldwarrior wingnuts have banded together to confront us "limp wristed" lefties. Ah Jinju, do repeat everything Ann Coultour says? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| I see the right-wing coldwarrior wingnuts have banded together to confront us "limp wristed" lefties. Ah Jinju, do repeat everything Ann Coultour says? |
What, are you now comparing yourself to Edwards? Top drawer comedy right there.
Face that face that you're a moron, limpy. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Well, if Jinju (who's still fighting communism circa 1963) is calling me stupid, it must be true. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Well, if Jinju (who's still fighting communism circa 1963) is calling me stupid, it must be true. |
it is true. Maybe you arent a commie but you probably love the color pink. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
|
| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
However, in the interest of resonable debate and thoughtful discussion here is the point form those of us opposing the crazies on this board.
The current confrontations with NK and Iran are political in nature. The US (and others, but mostly the US) is trying to convince these nations that they don't need and shouldn't want nuclear weapons.
The right-wing view of these countries and their main actors is that they are misbehaving children whom the US must stop before they acquire these weapons and demand things that the US doesn't want to give (aid, political recognition, destruction of Israel, etc etc etc).
You old folks remember being children? What did you do when your parents told you not to something they were doing? You went and did it to spite them
Now, I'm well aware that building replacement nukes is somewhat different than building a new program. However, these misbehaving "children" are unlikely to see that. In fact, you can bet you bottom dollar that the Iranians will use this as a further justification to continue flouting their obligations under International Law (see not only the US does it). In politics reality and truth have no place, it's all about optics and the US has given another justification to the Iranians |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
freethought
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| jinju wrote: |
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| Well, if Jinju (who's still fighting communism circa 1963) is calling me stupid, it must be true. |
it is true. Maybe you arent a commie but you probably love the color pink. |
it's been my experience that the people who are most concerned with others having limp wrists and liking the colour pink often have the limpest wrists and the most pink clothes of all....
Care to come out of your closet, Jinju? Dave's is a very welcoming place. You may even find a nice, big, bear top who wears pink just looking to find a nice girly bottom boy like you...
For the record, the fact that someones sexuality is questioned and pictures of the enterprise and Darth vader and the emperor are being used as counter arguments is a pretty good sign that the title of this thread makes a legit point. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
Sitting around the Death Star for several months with no women is going to make you lonely. Maybe some 'Comfort Wookies' are in needed.
Now I'm not too sure what the problem here is. Is it more of a PR mistake to rebuild nukes than an actual act of hypocrisy?
Except for further justification, what effects does this have on Iran's capability to build nukes?
(what happened to the bunker buster nukes?) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
supernick
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| it's been my experience that the people who are most concerned with others having limp wrists and liking the colour pink often have the limpest wrists and the most pink clothes of all.... |
It's sad, but in recent days, I have noticed an increasing amount of slurs and insults based on a person's nationality, religion or sexuality.
The good news is that TUM and a few others don't scoop to such low levels, and show a truer nature of tolerance, while keeping their comments on the topic at hand, and not the sexuality of a poster.
How that some of you are engaged in education in a somewhat professional way could now find yourself making such comments and insults of this nature are beyond me. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| I see the right-wing coldwarrior wingnuts have banded together to confront us "limp wristed" lefties. Ah Jinju, do repeat everything Ann Coultour says? |
Ad hominem. Gopher didn't insult you personally. Don't group him in with others who did.
| Octavius Hite wrote: |
The current confrontations with NK and Iran are political in nature. The US (and others, but mostly the US) is trying to convince these nations that they don't need and shouldn't want nuclear weapons.
The right-wing view of these countries and their main actors is that they are misbehaving children whom the US must stop before they acquire these weapons and demand things that the US doesn't want to give (aid, political recognition, destruction of Israel, etc etc etc). |
Except that the development of new warheads likely has little to do with Iran or North Korea. For these countries, we have plenty of conventional and nuclear deterrents.
Congress gave Bush the permission for this in 2005. It is almost definite that new warheads development are aimed at deterrance against China and Russia. These are the only hostile states that could possibly wield the firepower necessary to develop new deterrent technology.
The United States needs to form a nuclear umbrella against these powers, at least because they are unpredictable. The Russians have recently withdrawn from the INF treaty. This is likely in reaction to the US establishing the beginnings of a nuclear defense treaty in Eastern Europe.
Russia still wants to maintain a nuclear strike capability against the US. This is probably because Russia is controlled by a few people, and they cannot lose the strategic edge they have against the US without suffering credibility and power from it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
