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bixlerscott

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: |
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First, Bush should had been impeached several years ago for reckless war crimes on account of invading Iraq without the UN's approval and misleading the American people into huge national debt and big big lies. The only reason why he has not been impeached is that he is making the rich richer, the ones who support him and the ones running everything in such a corrupt manner that is terrible for the common working class and those rying to come up in the world such as kids and young adults. His leadership imcompetence is the worst, but yet he is unrightfully the CEO. Often, the worst character gets the leadership position and the followers end up falling flat on their faces wondering how they could of been so wrong about it all. The worst president in U.S. history. Bad business.
If you have noticed, when reading about the history of other countries, this scenario has played out time after time in the history of nations.....Expect hard times to beleager the great nation and its' almighty Dollar in the coming years and decades... minus technology, do not discount why Rome fell and why Korea gave up the old aristocrat system of things. Corrupt, greedy, fat, sedentary, and comfortable upper ruling class misleading their nations to economic, social, and political hardship and strife... |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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EFLTrainer:
Now that you've changed your avatar, you don't have much redeeming value to your posts.
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| My post wasn't about Iran, but thanks for playing. And patriotism? Something wrong with it? |
First off, I didn't address you directly. Second, the article you posted is making reference to Iran. Third, what specifically leads you to infer that I'm anti-patriotic? I've even had a thread or two on the subject.
Need to get a grip, bruddah. |
Virtually everything you say is unpatriotic. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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bixler:
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| First, Bush should had been impeached several years ago for reckless war crimes on account of invading Iraq without the UN's approval and misleading the American people into huge national debt and big big lies. |
Didn't know former employees of Michael Moore inhabited this forum.
And such a sweep of historical insight from Iraq to Korea to ancient Rome. Breathtaking; the stuff of Hollywood docu-dramas.
EFLonTrainingWheels:
Virtually everything? No hyperbole there, eh? Please do enumerate my transgressions in this regard. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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No need. Your previous suits just fine.
You're a rightwing nut who neither knows nor cares anything of patriotism. You insult people who defend the Constitution and the rule of law. You are not an American, just an american. Your way of thinking and your kind have been fully discredited. You are a small, unhinged minority.
You are irrelevant.
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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EFLTrainer:
It's always easier to label someone and be dismissive than to engage them in real debate. I have succumbed to that temptation on this forum myself but only after attempts to engage certain posters in debate have devolved into ad hominem attacks. I don't and never have considered myself an idealogue and I hold in disdain those on both the left and the right who are. Actually, I'd like to see a viable, moderate third party come to the fore in American politics to break the bi-party gridlock.
I come from a family that has served it's country with distinction, so your estimation that I'm not patriotic rings hollow. I'll leave it at that since I certainly don't seek your approval. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
EFLTrainer:
It's always easier to label someone and be dismissive than to engage them in real debate. I have succumbed to that temptation on this forum myself but only after attempts to engage certain posters in debate have devolved into ad hominem attacks. I don't and never have considered myself an idealogue and I hold in disdain those on both the left and the right who are. Actually, I'd like to see a viable, moderate third party come to the fore in American politics to break the bi-party gridlock.
I come from a family that has served it's country with distinction, so your estimation that I'm not patriotic rings hollow. I'll leave it at that since I certainly don't seek your approval. |
Gopher, you're a liar and a fool. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Better detail on the original story from a different source.
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A number of U.S. military leaders, reportedly including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have waged an extraordinary behind-the-scenes resistance to what they fear is a secret plan by George W. Bush to wage war against Iran....
Sources familiar with concerns inside the Pentagon have told me that senior U.S. military commanders, including Pace, have publicized their differences with the White House as part of a shadow bureaucratic battle to head off Bush�s Iran war plans. |
Here is an excellent in-depth look at current administration policy. What percentage of Americans are aware of the changes in policy - the realignment?
Hersh, in The New Yorker: THE REDIRECTION
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Still, the Pentagon is continuing intensive planning for a possible bombing attack on Iran, a process that began last year, at the direction of the President. In recent months, the former intelligence official told me, a special planning group has been established in the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, charged with creating a contingency bombing plan for Iran that can be implemented, upon orders from the President, within twenty-four hours.
In the past month, I was told by an Air Force adviser on targeting and the Pentagon consultant on terrorism, the Iran planning group has been handed a new assignment: to identify targets in Iran that may be involved in supplying or aiding militants in Iraq. Previously, the focus had been on the destruction of Iran�s nuclear facilities and possible regime change.
Two carrier strike groups�the Eisenhower and the Stennis�are now in the Arabian Sea. One plan is for them to be relieved early in the spring, but there is worry within the military that they may be ordered to stay in the area after the new carriers arrive, according to several sources. (Among other concerns, war games have shown that the carriers could be vulnerable to swarming tactics involving large numbers of small boats, a technique that the Iranians have practiced in the past; carriers have limited maneuverability in the narrow Strait of Hormuz, off Iran�s southern coast.) The former senior intelligence official said that the current contingency plans allow for an attack order this spring. He added, however, that senior officers on the Joint Chiefs were counting on the White House�s not being �foolish enough to do this in the face of Iraq, and the problems it would give the Republicans in 2008.� |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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EFLTrainer:
Sorry to spoil your wishful suspicions but I'm not Gopher. Check with the moderators if you need proof. If you were a discerning reader, you'd note, for instance, that he is far less acerbic in tone than I can be.
The way you talk about Bush you must be one of Michael Moore's hamsters.
Bet he can pay you a higher salary that you're drawing now at your little hagwon by scouting new locations for his next docu-drama fantasy flick.
Think about it. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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The mods can confirm nothing. And I could care less. You are similar enough, and support each other in cases where ideologically you should not, for the supposition to be held for now.
But, really, you are both so equally irrelevant that you may as well be identical.
I quibble with your claim: your style is extremely similar. Be more careful about your writing style if you don't want your sockiness to be known. |
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