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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Ever had class with a mentally impaired student? Reply with quote

This is at a public elementary school. Apparently the student suffered a head injury in a traffic accident. Currently, I have limited information about his aptitude and current class curriculum. And on top of it, it's uncertain if he will come to class or not on a regular basis or infrequently.

I worked with Autistic children in the past, so I think I could set up a program for him if necessary but does anyone know if the Korean public school system provides programs for children in this sort of situation? Has anyone been in a similar situation? What did you do?

Many thanks,
Alyallen
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spliff



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a few in my classes. My school has a program for them. They have spec ed teachers for them and they also try to immerse them into regular classes. Many don't respond or do anything in class but, I think they enjoy being there w/ the other students.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
I have a few in my classes. My school has a program for them. They have spec ed teachers for them and they also try to immerse them into regular classes. Many don't respond or do anything in class but, I think they enjoy being there w/ the other students.


Thanks for the info. This is my second year at this school and he's the frst student I've noticed who has a mental impairment (at least documented). He has an assistant and I think a special ed teacher as well but I haven't heard anything about what exactly is expected of him in my class. Maybe nothing Question
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kat2



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have several in my classes at Elem. school. We have about 8 or 9 total at the school. There is a spec ed teacher, but they only spend a few periods a days with her. In my class, some of them participate as best they can. Some don't. I don't put any pressute on them, but do encourage them a lot when they do participate and always include them in activities. I don't call on them in class, but do expect them to participate in group activites.
In my classes, the best indicator is hwo the otehr students treat them. Some of the students, are given special treatment by the students and treatd like a baby or something different. Some of the students really aren't, and are always included and treated like any other student. I take my cues from this.
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Cohiba



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Wait Reply with quote

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Ever had class with a mentally impaired student?




Wait, you mean some aren't?
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Wait Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
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Ever had class with a mentally impaired student?




Wait, you mean some aren't?


Haha....

I know...I've met so many kids who had some sort of emotional or mental problem but it wasn't addressed by the family or by the school (or hagwon). But this kid clearly has some sort of problem....I feel bad for him...he's only 9 or 10 but suffered brain damage in a car accident. I just want to do what I can for him...Even if it isn't much...
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kat2



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best thing you can do is just be nice and supportive. All of my kids ,even the severely mentally handicapped ones say hi to me now (In english!). It always makes me smile and I really love teaching them. You could always talk to his homeroom teacher or the spec ed teacher. He may be able to do some parts of English well (like reading), but others not so well (like speaking) or vice versa. I would see if they have any advice.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kat2 wrote:
I think the best thing you can do is just be nice and supportive. All of my kids ,even the severely mentally handicapped ones say hi to me now (In english!). It always makes me smile and I really love teaching them. You could always talk to his homeroom teacher or the spec ed teacher. He may be able to do some parts of English well (like reading), but others not so well (like speaking) or vice versa. I would see if they have any advice.


I'm trying to find out what information I can about him. The homeroom teacher, special ed teacher and assistant are all new and since the school year just started, I haven't had time yet to track them down. I think my coteacher took off to find them and get some info because I started asking him questions about the student.

The only reason I know he exists is because he eats lunch at the teacher's table. I don't even know his name! I don't think it has occured to anyone to tell me about him. Whether he is in my class or not will most likely be a last second decision (not by me). I'd be more than happy to have him in the class and the school administration is aware of my experience with Autistic children. I want to teach Special Ed. in the future so this wouldn't be a burden or anything. I just hope I find out more aobut him soon!
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lowpo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Ever had class with a mentally impaired student? Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
This is at a public elementary school. Apparently the student suffered a head injury in a traffic accident. Currently, I have limited information about his aptitude and current class curriculum. And on top of it, it's uncertain if he will come to class or not on a regular basis or infrequently.

I worked with Autistic children in the past, so I think I could set up a program for him if necessary but does anyone know if the Korean public school system provides programs for children in this sort of situation? Has anyone been in a similar situation? What did you do?

Many thanks,
Alyallen

I have a mentally impaired student in my middle school. She will now start coming to my classes, because the Special Ed teacher left last term.
It is so hard to control her in class. I'm happy that my coteacher is with me in the classroom with me. I teach the class and he will try to control her. She will get up and change desks about 10 times, walk around and pick up other students pens. She will start talking readlly loud when I'm trying to teach.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ever had class with a mentally impaired student? Reply with quote

lowpo wrote:
Alyallen wrote:
This is at a public elementary school. Apparently the student suffered a head injury in a traffic accident. Currently, I have limited information about his aptitude and current class curriculum. And on top of it, it's uncertain if he will come to class or not on a regular basis or infrequently.

I worked with Autistic children in the past, so I think I could set up a program for him if necessary but does anyone know if the Korean public school system provides programs for children in this sort of situation? Has anyone been in a similar situation? What did you do?

Many thanks,
Alyallen

I have a mentally impaired student in my middle school. She will now start coming to my classes, because the Special Ed teacher left last term.
It is so hard to control her in class. I'm happy that my coteacher is with me in the classroom with me. I teach the class and he will try to control her. She will get up and change desks about 10 times, walk around and pick up other students pens. She will start talking readlly loud when I'm trying to teach.


That sounds tough. I have some ideas in my mind if there are behavior problems. I haven't a clue if they will work but I'll share them with you. Since I am horrible at explaining things like this clearly, here is a link of what I've done in the past with Autistic children. I don't think we as English teachers are necessarily qualified to do this but if it leads to decrease in disruptive behavior....
http://www.wku.edu/~sally.kuhlenschmidt/psy443/projstep.htm
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ChuckECheese



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never taught mentally impaired students, but I worked with many mentally impaired colleagues, staff members, and bosses.
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pest2



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In High School, I had a class with a mentally impaired English teacher. Well... psychologically...

One day, while discussing MacBeth, he stopped the class, pointed his hands at 45 degrees and 100 degrees, and said, I am a compass. Then, he started asking everyone in the class what direction he was pointing. All the students, who were completely lost, got the wrong answer (only a place inside his mind knew the right answer, at that point). Then, he just started shouting at everyone something fierce; asking them why they dont study geography more and English less... someone ran out of class after 5 minutes of this shouting and got the principal who came and took him away, still shouting.
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harvid1



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school doesn't have a program for them yet, but is looking into it.
For the most part it is an integrated classroom. I feel bad because they are put at the front of the classes and don't get to participate in much.

I try to encourage stduents as much as possible. As a result i've gotten quite the following. One boy comes into the office and tells me the english word he learned "black...... Pen." I tell him good job and he runs away. It's kind of funny.

Anyways this semester I have one class where one student just yelled at the top of his lungs randomly if no one was standing near them. So that took me by surprise. The co-teacher said the other Korean teachers just usually ignored him and kept on teaching. So that will be interesting...
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. When I was at &^% and the academic supervisor and manager did not handle it well.

I had a young man in his early 20's who was mentally retarded. He disrupted the class by shouting and singing and his classmates were obviously angry and upset. I suggested that I teach him on a one to one basis but it was a no go. His parents paid and he was there for the month. It wasn't fair to the rest of the students, to myself or even him. He could not learn in a group setting.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't know if I will have him as a student yet but my coteacher did mention something to me. Apparently the school is building a room for this student which seems like a good idea, but I couldn't help but wonder why they they are building it NOW instead of doing it during the vacation. Korean planning, I suppose Rolling Eyes

In my own memory, I don't remember having a class with a mentally impaired student. I know that some (in the U.S.) are integrated into the mainstream classes but usually there is an assistant (or at least a plan in place) there to help but guessing by comments made by lowpo and harvid1 this isn't (always) the case.

Is this a situation where the students do or don't get services based on the individual schools? Wouldn't this sort of situation be important enough to establish some sort of overarching policy at the provincial or national level? I guess I'm asking too much....
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