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ohahakehte



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 6:39 pm    Post subject: forming friendships/relationships with fellow foreigners Reply with quote

in my experience, when someone is "out of their element" - being in a different country, culture or situation - their approach to meeting new people is different and their standards are different. ive found that when you're in a new context and you meet somebody who might have even just one thing in common with you, you feel more drawn to them but that can easily lead to disappointment because you wouldnt normally hang out with such a person in your own element.

have teachers in korea found that to be the case?

what about forming girlfriend/boyfriend relationships in these contexts? have many people met a future spouse, or at least someone they were with for a long time thru teaching in korea?

and a funny thing that ive found is that inevitably, people who arent usually promiscuous become moreso when in a different culture or situation. any reality to that while teaching in korea?
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about more promiscious, but definantly more irresponsible. Most people won't be here for a long time so they know whatever damage they cause they can run away from. This isn't the same situation from their home environment. Also, people seem to drink a lot more alcohol here which lets down the inhibitions.
Definantly agree with you about the friend question. Definantly, when you first get here you hang around with people maybe you wouldn't back home. This is because the range of choice is perhaps limited and also you are sharing the same experience of living in a foreign country so that can draw you to these semmingly incompatible people.
Justr remember, over time your thinking changes and you'll find that the longer you are here the more you will have in common with other long-termers
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I don't know about more promiscious, but definantly more irresponsible. Most people won't be here for a long time so they know whatever damage they cause they can run away from. This isn't the same situation from their home environment. Also, people seem to drink a lot more alcohol here which lets down the inhibitions.


This is very true, yet one of very many weird dynamics that go on with expatriates here in Korea and I imagine everywhere. Some say jealousy, competition, alienation, paranoia, greed, arrogance are all causes of this strange dynamic and I cant quite put my finger on what it is absolutely that causes it. Any way don't expect your fellow foreigners to come and throw their arms around you and take you under their wing.

One thing I guarantee is that if you are on your way here, you will meet some really strange fuggin' people.(Neutral


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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't met that many strange foreigners.

A lot of weird Koreans, but not that many weird foreigners.

Then again, I've only gone to Seoul once.
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sid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where you hang out but if you're lucky you might find a reasonably 'egalitarian' spirit amongst foreigners in Korea. A group of people of different ages, nationality and background but at that particular point in time all having very similar working and living experiences, and all intent on getting drunk after a hard weeks teaching. For your circle of 'bar' friends the little social nuances and tensions from home don't really apply. No need to speculate on how wierd somebody might be in real-life, as this is Friday night in Korea.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the OP, it's harder to find people you really relate to. You don't have the choices, and you have a set of artificial circumstances in common. One positive I can see is that you really have no choice but to run with it, and over time may find you can relate to a wider spectrum of people. Youz a long way from Kanzas kiddo!
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its kind of fun & broadening to socialize outside the usual mix of people you'd choose in your native environment. One problem though is westerners here tend to be passing through (for various lengths of time) & you find yourself saying lots of goodbyes.

That said, I've made some friends I'd travel the globe to visit again, & they feel the same way. By the way OP, youre still in Waterloo now? A dear friend of mine recently left here for there (7 years & a Korean spouse later) & I bet she'd be happy to meet & give you a good lowdown on Korea. PM me for contact details if youre interested.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote:
I agree with the OP, it's harder to find people you really relate to. You don't have the choices, and you have a set of artificial circumstances in common. One positive I can see is that you really have no choice but to run with it, and over time may find you can relate to a wider spectrum of people. Youz a long way from Kanzas kiddo!



What about your Christian ladies' knitting circle-how's that working for you?


Meeting foreigners of substance isn't all that hard. While I will have the odd beer, I won't hang with the crazed drunkend crowd. Apart from the crankiness and homesickness that hits everyone and when you don't want to associate with poeple, just go for it-if you meet a few jerks, you can always tell Andie you're not wasting any more of your time.


Its not as if its not a numbers game-maybe in the sticks but not in Seoul.
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ohahakehte



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as some of you have already mentioned, the up side to being in a different environment is that one can meet others who are very different and who one would never usually bump into - but a good relationship can result nonetheless. i used to think that i could never befriend a "jock" or anyone who was really athletic, but i was proven wrong many times while working at camp and while treeplanting. and the weird thing is that of those people who i did have more in common with while treeplanting or wherever, it turned out that many of them were pretentious losers and no matter how similar we were it didnt make me like them.

its kinda sad though to meet people in a foreign/different setting and you can see that they feel a need to hang around you because you came from the same town or whatever. they keep spewing out the forced conversation in lame cliches and stupid questions. i hate that.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about your Christian ladies' knitting circle-how's that working for you?

It's just delightful dear, stitch, drop, pearl, stitch, drop, pearl, ... I'm making a cardie for my nephew, how satisfying!
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