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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: notcanada.com |
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In the news recently it was reported that despite the Canadian government targetting more highly educated immigrants the standard of living for the immigrant community has not imporved over the last decade. These new immigrants are complaining that they were misled by the government and were not told that their degrees would not be recognized here.
www.notcanada.com
This is a site that gives new immigrants a forum to vent their frustrations. Here is a sample:
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What most Canadians simply can not understand is that the Canadian government invites thousands of highly skilled immigrants to Canada under the false assumption that we and our skills will be used. We did not come to Canada fleeing from war, disease, hunger or political instability. We, professional immigrants, were told by the Canadian government that we would be able to get professional jobs in this country. We were deceived, lied and fooled in a very bad way. Canadians have all the right to chose the immigrants they want, and they have all the right to protect their country from foreigners, but they do not have the right to lie to people. In other words, if Canada needs factory workers and cleaning staff they should say so since the very beginning. They should honestly say that there are no professional jobs for new immigrants, no matter how well qualified. Does that word honesty- rings a bell? How can Canadians ask for honesty if they routinely act in such a dishonest way?
I left Canada for good last July 1 and now I�m living in California. It was the best way to celebrate Canada Day that I could think of. That�s the best and only way you can deal with these people. I simply used my Canadian citizen status to get a decent job here. I miserably lost 2 years of my life in Canada, and Canada lost about CAD $50,000 in me (I got much lower tuition fees at school, health services, French classes, library services, tax reimbursements, etc., well, at least I did not leave empty handed). People, take the redneck�s advice: get out of that country, move to the USA or go back to your home land. Life is way better here in the USA than in Canada... Earn more money, pay less taxes, get a much better weather and get also a little and elementary respect. And they don�t tell lies: they are not inviting people to come here, they don�t lie about your professional possibilities, you can expect difficulties to get into the professional jobs, they have rigorous and strict immigration and work policies.
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Makes me feel embarrassed to be Canadian.  |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| As a Canadian, I wouldnt live in that country anyway. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| It is important for Canadians living in Korea to be honest with any potential immigrants. CANADA IS OVERRATED! |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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A Taiwanese friend hit the nail on the head when she said that Canada's a nice country, but you can't make money there.
Exactly. Things are expensive and we get taxed to death on top of that. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| It is important for Canadians living in Korea to be honest with any potential immigrants. CANADA IS OVERRATED! |
Its a nice country but I wouldn't want to live there. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Canada is a great country, it is just hard to get a good job. It is hard for people born and raised in Canada to get good jobs, let alone immigrants. I think they should be treated better than they are when it comes to their education and they shouldn't be misled, but who is doing the misleading? But at the same time, they shouldn't just be expecting to get a good job (I am sure most aren't, but I am just saying).
Canada is not a country for rich people. It is a country of middle-class people. I would love to see what percentage of the population is middle-class, it must be huge. If you want to make your millions, move south of the border. If you want to live a good life and be content with making $50,000 a year, Canada is fantastic.
Also, Canada is not expensive. Name a place with a similar level of development that is cheaper. (Australia could possibly answer this, but I really have no idea) |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to make your millions, move south of the border. If you want to live a good life and be content with making $50,000 a year, Canada is fantastic. |
Can't make $50,000 a year driving cabs.
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| Also, Canada is not expensive. Name a place with a similar level of development that is cheaper. (Australia could possibly answer this, but I really have no idea) |
The US. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Also, Canada is not expensive. Name a place with a similar level of development that is cheaper. (Australia could possibly answer this, but I really have no idea) |
BUT when half your earnings are stolen by the government in the form of icome taxes, GST, PST, etc etc etc then it does get expensive. Are you thinking of going back? I wouldnt, its a dead end place to live, you know that aj.... |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
| Also, Canada is not expensive. Name a place with a similar level of development that is cheaper. (Australia could possibly answer this, but I really have no idea) |
The US. |
*beep*, I meant to say other than the USA. Okay, but name somewhere else.  |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| BUT when half your earnings are stolen by the government in the form of icome taxes, GST, PST, etc etc etc then it does get expensive. Are you thinking of going back? I wouldnt, its a dead end place to live, you know that aj.... |
Canada is not a dead end place to live. Honestly, what makes it so bad? Actually, I fully plan on going back within the next 2-4 years. I can get a much better job there than here and something I enjoy much more than teaching English. I had an awesome life growing up and my parents paid those same taxes everybody complains about, and they both worked government jobs which are the most highly taxed jobs.
Also, the money isn't 'stolen' by the government. That is the same money that let's you go to the hospital for free and live off your pension when you retire without needing other sources of income. Yeah, we do pay more than a lot of other countries, but at the same time, in the end people are a lot better off in Canada.
Do you guys honestly think people that all that differently than Canadians in other Western countries? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| BUT when half your earnings are stolen by the government in the form of icome taxes, GST, PST, etc etc etc then it does get expensive. Are you thinking of going back? I wouldnt, its a dead end place to live, you know that aj.... |
Canada is not a dead end place to live. Honestly, what makes it so bad? |
lack of any means of achieving anything but a coffin in the suburbs, 9-5 cubicle job (if you are lucky, if not its off to the factory with ya) and the mindnumbing boredom.
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| Actually, I fully plan on going back within the next 2-4 years. I can get a much better job there than here and something I enjoy much more than teaching English. |
Examples, please. Im not saying you can't I just want to know what you plan on doing.
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| I had an awesome life growing up and my parents paid those same taxes everybody complains about, and they both worked government jobs which are the most highly taxed jobs. |
Dont let nostalgia cloud your judgement.
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| Also, the money isn't 'stolen' by the government. |
Yes, it is. If its not in my bank account and if I didnt give it up willingly, its stolen.
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| That is the same money that let's you go to the hospital for free and live off your pension when you retire without needing other sources of income. |
yes, thats partly true. If you have a cold you can get looked at by your doctor for free. if you need an MRI for example or something more complicated than "open your mouth and say ahhhhh" you are SOL. How long are the witing lists for people needing MRIs now? A couple of months?
As far as your pension, unless you have something like a RRSP you will be living in the ghetto in Scarborough or you wont get the pension because it will be all dried up. |
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JeJuJitsu
Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Location: McDonald's
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree Canada is nice but I was extremly unhappy there. |
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Lao Wai
Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: East Coast Canada
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
I'm not saying Canada is a perfect nation by any means. However, some of you are going a bit overboard in your condemnation of Canada. I plan on going back there this summer to get a job (teaching). Yeah, it's going to suck for a while (substitute teaching) but I know that eventually something will fall into place. For too long I've had this notion that things should just come easily to me. This just can't happen all of the time.
I have three brothers. After they all graduated from their respective college programs, they struggled for a bit. However, they kept at it, got better jobs, and are now fairly secure in their jobs. They are buying houses and cars, and having kids. They have student loans, mortgages, etc. So far, judging from the quality of life they are living, I'd say they're in the same boat financially as my family was when I was growing. And as a previous poster said, I had a great childhood. We had nice houses, took family vacations, and never did without. My Dad was RCMP, and my Mom didn't work. Sure, initially it's hard to save, but eventually you start paying things off and can get ahead a bit. And none of my friends or relatives live in tiny houses. Maybe it's because I'm from the East Coast.
Anyway, stop knocking Canada so much. I know that most of the people I know back home are happier than a lot of malcontents overseas (including myself...ha ha) |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: |
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Hey,
I'm not saying Canada is a perfect nation by any means. However, some of you are going a bit overboard in your condemnation of Canada. I plan on going back there this summer to get a job (teaching). Yeah, it's going to suck for a while (substitute teaching) but I know that eventually something will fall into place. For too long I've had this notion that things should just come easily to me. This just can't happen all of the time.
I have three brothers. After they all graduated from their respective college programs, they struggled for a bit. However, they kept at it, got better jobs, and are now fairly secure in their jobs. They are buying houses and cars, and having kids. They have student loans, mortgages, etc. So far, judging from the quality of life they are living, I'd say they're in the same boat financially as my family was when I was growing. And as a previous poster said, I had a great childhood. We had nice houses, took family vacations, and never did without. My Dad was RCMP, and my Mom didn't work. Sure, initially it's hard to save, but eventually you start paying things off and can get ahead a bit. And none of my friends or relatives live in tiny houses. Maybe it's because I'm from the East Coast.
Anyway, stop knocking Canada so much. I know that most of the people I know back home are happier than a lot of malcontents overseas (including myself...ha ha) |
Haha, my dad was OPP. I agree with everything you say.
I wanted to add one more thing. I think Canada can be hard to get started in. But if you can leave here with a decent amount saved, you would be golden when you got back home. |
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