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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
Canada is a great country, it is just hard to get a good job. It is hard for people born and raised in Canada to get good jobs, let alone immigrants. I think they should be treated better than they are when it comes to their education and they shouldn't be misled, but who is doing the misleading? But at the same time, they shouldn't just be expecting to get a good job (I am sure most aren't, but I am just saying).

The Canadian government misleads them. Read the first line of the quote again.

They get visas based on their education and experience. They expect to become doctors when they come. But they are told they don't have "Canadian experience" when they apply for jobs. So they become taxi drivers. It's true, I've met many of them.

It should be easy to get a good job in Canada, with or without education. There are tons of them here.

Canada is facing a shortage of professionals over the next few years and are considering extending the retirement age. And these immigrants drive around in taxis.

Canada's immigration policy is severely broken. Many people here know about it. But hopefully this site will shed some more light on the problem.
ajgeddes wrote:
I wanted to add one more thing. I think Canada can be hard to get started in. But if you can leave here with a decent amount saved, you would be golden when you got back home.

Dude, you're living in dreamland.
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twg



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
A Taiwanese friend hit the nail on the head when she said that Canada's a nice country, but you can't make money there.

Exactly. Things are expensive and we get taxed to death on top of that.

What Dev's friend said...
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The King of Kwangju wrote:
ajgeddes wrote:
I wanted to add one more thing. I think Canada can be hard to get started in. But if you can leave here with a decent amount saved, you would be golden when you got back home.

Dude, you're living in dreamland.


What is so wrong about this? Do you think Canada is 31,000,000 people living in poverty? What's wrong with everybody on here, you guys are talking like it is impossible to live a good life in Canada, while in reality you are completely wrong. I go home and I see people living in nice houses, driving nice cars, going on vacation, and being genuinely happy. Do you not see this, or is this just in Ontario? My high school friends mostly all own houses and they are 25 years old. My three best friends all make over $65,000 a year and have their own house. You guys are the ones living in a dreamland.
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gatsby



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Canada sure is a nice place to visit. Especially if you are coming from the U.S.

The towns and cities look so more attractive, better urban planning and far less blight. You don't see the sort of horrifying poverty that you can see in some U.S. cities.

Try going to most cities in Connecticut or Pennsylvania. It is embarrasing to consider what a foreigner must think. The odd part is that once you get out of the cities, things look pretty good.

There may be problems in Canada, but I think they are worse in many parts of the U.S. It is not just the way things look; it is the attitudes, the sense of hopelessness and helplessness you see in the urban lower class, as well as the rest of the population to a lesser extent. There are a lot of people who seem to have given up hope of having much control over their life, or control over their government.

They are alienated.

I don't see that when I visit Canada. It gives me hope that the problem is not in humanity, but in the United States.
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The King of Kwangju



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
The King of Kwangju wrote:
ajgeddes wrote:
I wanted to add one more thing. I think Canada can be hard to get started in. But if you can leave here with a decent amount saved, you would be golden when you got back home.

Dude, you're living in dreamland.

What is so wrong about this?

Plenty of immigrants come to Canada with plenty of money. Some are professionals and have a lot of money. But they can't get jobs in their profession, and they are far from golden.

Plenty of ex-expats come back to Canada with plenty of money. But without some kind of plan they burn through it quickly and are far from golden.

A sack of cash won't guarantee anything.
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shifter2009



Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatsby wrote:
Well, Canada sure is a nice place to visit. Especially if you are coming from the U.S.

The towns and cities look so more attractive, better urban planning and far less blight. You don't see the sort of horrifying poverty that you can see in some U.S. cities.

Try going to most cities in Connecticut or Pennsylvania. It is embarrasing to consider what a foreigner must think. The odd part is that once you get out of the cities, things look pretty good.

There may be problems in Canada, but I think they are worse in many parts of the U.S. It is not just the way things look; it is the attitudes, the sense of hopelessness and helplessness you see in the urban lower class, as well as the rest of the population to a lesser extent. There are a lot of people who seem to have given up hope of having much control over their life, or control over their government.

They are alienated.

I don't see that when I visit Canada. It gives me hope that the problem is not in humanity, but in the United States.


Its alot easier to be socialy active with a much smaller population. Good on Canada for its but comparing it to the USA is apples to oranges at this point. California has a bigger population than the whole country. We got 49 more states with their own individual problems to tack on to that. Being more like Canada is not going to cure our ills. We can lift a few ideas from them but the whole, "I wish we were more like country X attitude" kinda sucks. Look at the country objectively and try apply what works and what doesn't. Candian immigration issues aren't the size of the US/Mexican border, Toronto poverty isn't like LA poverty ect.
In short, all I am saying is Canada is wonderful place but would you please take your lips off their ass. They trade away their best hockey players to the States for pete's sakes. (I am looking at you Edmington)
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada: A good place to live, but a bad place to try to get rich.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jean Chretien repeatedly said that Canada was the greatest country in the world.

If you cannot believe the greatest Prime Minister in Canadian history, then you're just sad.
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Canada: A good place to live, but a bad place to try to get rich.


This sums up everything I have been saying.
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The King of Kwangju wrote:
ajgeddes wrote:
The King of Kwangju wrote:
ajgeddes wrote:
I wanted to add one more thing. I think Canada can be hard to get started in. But if you can leave here with a decent amount saved, you would be golden when you got back home.

Dude, you're living in dreamland.

What is so wrong about this?

Plenty of immigrants come to Canada with plenty of money. Some are professionals and have a lot of money. But they can't get jobs in their profession, and they are far from golden.

Plenty of ex-expats come back to Canada with plenty of money. But without some kind of plan they burn through it quickly and are far from golden.

A sack of cash won't guarantee anything.


With that comment, I wasn't talking about immigrants, but rather us, leaving Korea. Of course you can't just go home and be a bum. You guys act like it is impossible to get a good job.
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Canadians and the Canadian government seem to think that Canada is a wonderful place but its sad really...so many lives ruined, so much time wasted and in the end so much talent wasted...both the immigrants and Canada loose out in the long run.I wish the system could be changed and that every immigrant could get a fair deal and Canadian interests could be safeguarded but I don't think its going to happen anytime soon.


http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/forum_2.asp
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khyber



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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Plenty of immigrants come to Canada with plenty of money. Some are professionals and have a lot of money. But they can't get jobs in their profession, and they are far from golden.

Plenty of ex-expats come back to Canada with plenty of money. But without some kind of plan they burn through it quickly and are far from golden.

A sack of cash won't guarantee anything.

I don't think that's completely true. I have met a LOT of immigrant doctors but they have to be willing to live in the sticks.
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