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xCustomx
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 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: Use this site if you teach public middle school |
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www.msenglish.com.ne.kr
i know the site is in korean, but there are some songs you can use on there, along with power point presentations, listening exercises, vocabulary lists, etc... i received it today from one of my co-teachers and thought i'd pass it along to everyone else. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Good site...anyone got a link for a site like this for elementary school? |
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ddeubel
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest that no matter how enticing to use these kinds of materials in the classroom -- your role in the school is other. Meaning, you should be doing all you can to wean Korean teachers and yourself away from this kind of instruction and test driven , handout headdown, grammar groggy approach.
My thought and opinion anyway.
DD |
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xCustomx
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I would suggest that no matter how enticing to use these kinds of materials in the classroom -- your role in the school is other. Meaning, you should be doing all you can to wean Korean teachers and yourself away from this kind of instruction and test driven , handout headdown, grammar groggy approach.
My thought and opinion anyway.
DD |
I agree as well, but you can't deny that there are some things that people would find useful in their own ways. |
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kimchi story
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Holy smokes that's a great site! |
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bosintang
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| What did you find useful on that website? It's certainly comprehensive, but I can't imagine my co-teachers or the students being happy if I passed out some lame-ass crossword puzzle translating sentences that the co-teacher probably used a few weeks prior. |
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xCustomx
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| bosintang wrote: |
| What did you find useful on that website? It's certainly comprehensive, but I can't imagine my co-teachers or the students being happy if I passed out some lame-ass crossword puzzle translating sentences that the co-teacher probably used a few weeks prior. |
I don't expect people to just copy directly and pass out worksheets. There are songs you can use, proverbs, vocab, etc...Try being creative with what is offered and use it in your own way |
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bosintang
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
| bosintang wrote: |
| What did you find useful on that website? It's certainly comprehensive, but I can't imagine my co-teachers or the students being happy if I passed out some lame-ass crossword puzzle translating sentences that the co-teacher probably used a few weeks prior. |
I don't expect people to just copy directly and pass out worksheets. There are songs you can use, proverbs, vocab, etc...Try being creative with what is offered and use it in your own way |
Anything specific? (The question wasn't rhetorical.) I saw the pop songs, which are ok. |
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kimchi story
Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| bosintang wrote: |
Anything specific? (The question wasn't rhetorical.) I saw the pop songs, which are ok. |
I find the balance of English and Korean useful and the material to be perfectly appropriate to my classes - for those two reasons alone it's a total gem.
That said, it's a resource, and like any resource it either works for you or it doesn't. I've skipped the pop songs entirely so far and found the adverbs and ppt lessons interesting and appropriate for my style. I'm taking what's there and c&p-ing the heck out of it until it turns into something fun. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I would suggest that no matter how enticing to use these kinds of materials in the classroom -- your role in the school is other. Meaning, you should be doing all you can to wean Korean teachers and yourself away from this kind of instruction and test driven , handout headdown, grammar groggy approach.
My thought and opinion anyway.
DD |
And there are others that would say karoake in the classroom is a complete waste of time and an utter joke. Of course, a teacher should be using a variety of methods and materials and worksheets always make good supplementary materials. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| And there are others that would say karoake in the classroom is a complete waste of time and an utter joke. Of course, a teacher should be using a variety of methods and materials and worksheets always make good supplementary materials. |
Glad you qualified that. But I would suggest that those "others" that might say karaoke is a joke in the classroom, really don't know how to use it and are just reacting out of ignorance -- suppossing it is all just music and words on a screen. It isn't.
I also agree that a classroom isn't just fun and games. But teachers should be teaching in a style that allows students to unlock their own teacher inside. We don't so much teach English as set the stage for their own success as a self-teacher. Providing materials accessible outside the class (as in the case of karaoke) is one such way.
My point in the first post was that there is way too much Korean in those materials. This transliteral approach is totally dysfunctional and the foreign teacher should be weaning korean teachers and students from thinking this is a productive use of their time (which it isn't - unless you are doing a test where you are tested in the same fashion, which isn't "English" but rather "test knowledge". ).
I know it is a slow process, baby steps, but we should take the high road and design lessons which allow the students to produce language and truly communicate, not know "set " answers. Language is much more dynamic than this and this will never be enough.
DD |
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boss penguin
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
I would suggest that no matter how enticing to use these kinds of materials in the classroom -- your role in the school is other. Meaning, you should be doing all you can to wean Korean teachers and yourself away from this kind of instruction and test driven , handout headdown, grammar groggy approach.
My thought and opinion anyway.
DD |
I agree with ddeubel. Classroom exercises should be context specific, student centred. |
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bosintang
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| boss penguin wrote: |
I agree with ddeubel. Classroom exercises should be context specific, student centred. |
In my humble opinion, it's also a case of "know your role". When you start doing grammar exercises, direct translation activities, etc. etc., you're basically doing the Korean teachers job for them. Although not intentional, I think it would be incredibly insulting to Korean English teachers to be basically telling them that we can do their job better than they can by doing this.
Here are some other websites.
http://www.esl-galaxy.com/
http://bogglesworldesl.com/
http://www.mes-english.com/
Feel free to add. |
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