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AbraxasZ



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Wanted: House Cat Reply with quote

Hi everyone. I've been on the lookout for a cat, but have had very little luck. I don't want a pure-bred and would prefer to adopt a cat in need. I see there's a post here for a black and white cat, but it's listed as "not terribly friendly" and I really only want a friendly cat. Kittens can be trained, but older cats can who're stuck in their ways can be difficult.

If anyone is looking to get rid of a cat or knows where one can be adopted, I'd appreciate the information. I live in Bundang, an hour or so outside of Seoul. Cheers.
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DallasTexas



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Looking for pet Reply with quote

I copied this from Karenb's post in the pet adoption section:

At one website it looks like about 20 new animals are posted every day:

http://karama.or.kr/community_7.asp

Shih-tzus, spaniels, schnauzers, poodles, mixes... not to mention all the cats and a few rabbits!

I believe that shelter is located north of Seoul, in Yangju.

(I'm going to try and find the place and adopt a dog this weekend)
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AbraxasZ



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah great Dallas, thanks. I'll have to get someone who speaks/reads Korean to help me find the address, but it looks like they have quite a few.

Thanks a lot and good luck finding a dog!
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one speaks English at this place. So unless you are a fluent Korean speaker, you will need a LOT Of help. I had a Korean friend call them and ask a lot of questions. They have a serious adoption procedure! Before they will let you know what animals are up for adoption, you must fill out an adoption application in Korean and give them a Korean social security number. So you better make sure your Korean friend is willing to do this. Next, they set up a time for a phone interview where they ask you questions in Korean. So you have to make sure that your Korean friend who gave his/her social is there for this. If that phone interview goes well, then you have to make a trip which is several hours by bus from Seoul to this place. Make sure to bring that Korean friend with you too because they will only be talking to your Korean friend. My Korean friend who called them said they were not going to promise if they would adopt out a pet to a foreigner and they didn't sound very positive about the whole idea whatsoever. I was very disappointed!

Oh a few more things. They have a spay/neuter policy whereby you have to have the pet fixed before you take the pet home. So I am willing to bet you have to make another trip down to pick up the animal after it gets fixed. Don't forget that you have to bring back your Korean friend for this too.

All of this trouble is a whole heck of a lot to ask of any friend. Who has time for all this?! Even if I offered to pay for all this trouble, it would still be a lot to ask from anyone (for a pet). Most Koreans would laugh at the idea and try to talk you out of it because it is such a huge bother for you and them.

This red tape is such a pity!

Don't forget that this is a shelter. Such places can be infested with deadly diseases that can easily pass from one animal to another. The cages are open air and right next to each other so the pets can touch one another. Such diseases I would want any dog tested for are definately: parvo, corona, distemper and heartworm. They are very serious problems here in Korea..... most every puppy on Chungmoro in those stores die of those diseases within days/weeks of bringing the pet home. So my guess is that the shelters could very well have the same problem. How would you like to go through all the trouble of adopting an animal from this shelter just to bring it home and have it die or get seriously ill from a deadly disease like parvo and corona? Even if you have the animal tested at the shelter, it could be a false negative because it can take up to two weeks for a newly infected animal to be tested as a positive. It takes time for viruses like corona and parvo to show up in the blood tests and stools.
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimes for doughnuts, but those guys seem like complete asses. Why not wait a week or two for the inevitable person looking for a home for kitty? Expats here re constantly leaving and either don't have a place to take the pet, are worried about customs (aussies), and some worry about the effects of a 24+hour ride (North Americans)
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aek541



Joined: 07 Aug 2006
Location: Anyang Si, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a cat off of Daveeslcafe....and the ad said that she didn't really like women....well It was right........when I first got her....she was a tempermental...B(*(*$#....and so I just took it slowly....now....she loves when people come over to visit and everything........however....I also got another cat shortly after i got the grouchy one...and that made matters a little more difficult.......but now....she is Ssooooooooo loving....andshe was a full grown cat. So you may not be able to teach an old cat new tricks....but if you love you cat and give it some space....it will come to you and love you back....or from what I've found
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
Dimes for doughnuts, but those guys seem like complete asses. Why not wait a week or two for the inevitable person looking for a home for kitty? Expats here re constantly leaving and either don't have a place to take the pet, are worried about customs (aussies), and some worry about the effects of a 24+hour ride (North Americans)


I have been trying to find a recycled dog/pet now for well over a year this route. Every time I find one that I'm interested in, someone has already taken it by the time I ask or the advertiser changes his/her mind. It never ceases to amaze me how so my people who post their animals for sale or adoption don't even have the common decency to reply back with to an email inquiry by saying, "thank you for your interest but the animal has found a new home now. Good luck to you." Nope, you can't even expect a reply from people. So my suggestion would be to not count on this anytime soon unless you are a very very lucky person or you are willing to take in absolutely any type of animal. I'm not running a shelter, ty.
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AbraxasZ



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all that information Vicissitude. Sounds like you just saved me a lot of hassle. And I know what you mean about people changing their minds or giving the cat away to someone else after back and forth communication. These have happened to me too. Well, I guess I'll just keep looking and hope for the best.

aek541, I know what you mean, but I've also had the opposite experience. I had cats back home and some of them have started off skiddish and remain skiddish years later. I'm not saying it's not worth saving these cats, but this time around (it being my only pet), I'd like to adopt one that's friendly from the start.

Thanks again guys. This information is very helpful.
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post

Last edited by Gamecock on Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a kitten two years ago in Osan and he has been a fantastic housecat. There is a guy in front of the main gate every weekend selling puppies and occasionally has a kitten or two. Mine cost me 20,000. If you get desperate you might want to check it out. I know you probably don't want to buy a cat, but I'm pretty sure my cat was not having a high quality life when I got him...
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AbraxasZ



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks, gamecock. I wouldn't mind paying 20,000 for a cat; I just don't want to pay for a pure-breed. Do you know where Osan is in relation to Seoul? I wouldn't want to travel out of my way just for the possibility of the guy having a cat, but if it's close it would certainly be worth checking on.

Thanks for the idea!
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's someone getting rid of a cat on pusanweb.com classifieds now. Check it out. I commend you for adopting one instead of buying one.

__________

Cat looking for nice home
Cat needing a caring owner!

Please call Dave at 011-9550-7020
General details:
Posted by: dave getz (0 / # 0)
Email: [email protected]
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fiver



Joined: 07 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a cat if you want. Nearly four years old. Housetrained, keeps to himself, friendly and likes lots of attention. PM me.
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AbraxasZ



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks kat2. I checked out the site, but couldn't find the post you're talking about. I also assume that site deals mostly with the Busan area; am I wrong?

Fiver, I've PMed you.

Again, thanks everyone!
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karenb



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Adopting from KARAMA Reply with quote

I have a few comments to add in response to Vicissitude's post about adopting from KARAMA. I haven't adopted from them, but I had a Korean friend call as well to get info, and two of my friends visited the place and wrote about their experience.

Vicissitude wrote:
No one speaks English at this place. So unless you are a fluent Korean speaker, you will need a LOT Of help.

Absolutely true.

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They have a serious adoption procedure!

As they should.

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If that phone interview goes well, then you have to make a trip which is several hours by bus from Seoul to this place.

It's 45 minutes by city bus from Ganeung Station, I think it took my friends about 2, 2.5 hours to get there in total.

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My Korean friend who called them said they were not going to promise if they would adopt out a pet to a foreigner and they didn't sound very positive about the whole idea whatsoever.

My Korean friend also mentioned some hesitation about KARAMA's adopting out to foreigners, but it sounded like the reservation came from the fact that so many foreigners leave their pets here when they return to their home countries. If through the screening questions you could convey that you were not that kind of foreigner, being from a country that doesn't have strict quarantine laws might help, then I understood there wouldn't be a problem. Again, you really need a Korean person with you to convey everything you want to say.

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They have a spay/neuter policy whereby you have to have the pet fixed before you take the pet home. So I am willing to bet you have to make another trip down to pick up the animal after it gets fixed.

This may be true, but my understanding was that you could have your pet fixed at a clinic after you adopted, and that your vet clinic could fax in your receipt for the surgery and you could be reimbursed in part. However, I think it's better for the shelter to do the surgery before you take the pet home.

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Who has time for all this?! Even if I offered to pay for all this trouble, it would still be a lot to ask from anyone (for a pet). Most Koreans would laugh at the idea and try to talk you out of it because it is such a huge bother for you and them.

Yes, it may be a lot to ask of a Korean friend who probably has a full schedule, but if you have a good friend who loves animals, it is worth the "bother" because you'd be saving an animal's life.

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This red tape is such a pity!

Good shelters in North America have a fairly strict adoption procedure that requires the same: application & screening, and often a house visit as well. It seems more difficult here because of the language barrier, but I think choosing a pet that will living be with you for 15 or more years should have a little "procedure" involved.

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Don't forget that this is a shelter. Such places can be infested with deadly diseases that can easily pass from one animal to another.

Good point. I imagine that the shelter staff would remove to another location or euthanize any animal showing signs of serious contagious disease, but it's a good idea to ask about testing and what vaccinations the animal has had. The shelter's goal is to help the animals, not make money, so unlike the bad pet stores they are going to help you choose a healthy animal.

I felt like I had to add some comments because Vicissitude's post pointed out only the negative. I do think that the people at KARAMA really want to help animals and that adoption procedures should be strict in order to prevent animals from being dumped by careless owners yet again. I don't know, but when I look at all the faces and think of how many of these animals will be euthanized, then I can't help but think that saving one is completely worth a day or two of travelling with a Korean friend.

http://www.karama.or.kr/community_7.asp
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