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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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OK a few things here:
1. Why do we have to single out the Black community? Because they are the fastest rising group of HIV cases (Black women to be exact). We are singeling them out because there is an active effort on the part of many church leaders and entertainers to either deny the problem exists or to make Blacks believe its only happening to gay men. A prime example of the Black Community refusing to do anything about eithe the problem or its underlying issues is this year the Black star of Grey's Anatomy called one of his co-stars a f*agget. What happened? He apologized and the NAACP gave him an award. WTF????? How many awards or gigs has Michael Richards gotten lately? The undercurrennt of hate towards homosexuals (and the resulting "downlow" behaviour) in the Black community is only helping this disease.
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| Silly Canadian, AIDs is a lifestyle choice. |
No its not. Again, the fastest rising group of infected people is Black Women. Women are taught to listen to the man. In the Black culture there is, in many places i.e the rural south, a notion of the viral male who conquers all. Plus, many people are uneducated and aren't given access to condoms. If you grew up in Lousiana or Alabama and only finished HS and were never given a proper sex ed class and your witch (preacher) is telling you not to us birthcontrol, you didnt get to make a choice.
3. The failure of Black "Leaders". Black community leaders have failed in any reasonable way to address this problem. In the 80's the gay community came together (most of the time) and tried to protect itself. We fought for more funding, education and awarness programs. We forced politicians and our own neighbours to wake up and see what was going on. We had disagreements and even fights, but at least we tried. How many black leaders (Jackson, Sharpton, Farakan, etc) have you heard give a major policy speech on HIV? None.
4. Why always Blacks/Africans? Well that's just not fair or resonable. India has the largest population of HIV sufferers folled by China. Africa was especially hard hit because it started there and they have always lacked even the most basic infrastructure to deal with it. Add in 50 years of war in almost every country and you see how it can get out of control. In America it would seem to be about education and community based organizations (or lack thereof) in deciding how this disease has played out. Remember, when AIDS first struck in 1981 the US gov't outlawed Haitian immigrants because they had a higher prevalance of the disease. The reason for this turned out to be lack of education and healthcare plus prostitution and drug use. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Black people don't seem to be really paying attention to anything except pointing out to racism from white people rather than looking at the huge drop out rate, gang problem, and the rate of HIV. They don't want to look at their problems for some reason. Maybe some feel if they talk about getting it together they will feel they are admitting there is a huge breakdown among so many of their people. I think you are going to need some kind of general American leadership that cares about this.
I do not know the cause of the high HIV rate. Are black people more likely to be promiscuous and to have many sexual partners than their Caucasian and Asian counterparts? That might be the case. White America does not really care about this. Their own leaders are the ones who need to care because the white leadership would pay somewhat attention to a high rate among whites. Martin Luther King j.r. fought against desegration. Well, more African Americans are being harmed percentage wise than they were in the past. They need their defenders.
I don't think people should laugh at the death of any people regardless of their sexual life-style or if they took drugs. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: Vaginal intercourse is not the biggest transmitter of AIDS |
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| Or, was your "more homosexuality in the black population" serious? If it was, we can dismiss that because heterosexual intercourse is the biggest spreader of AIDS. That's clear. |
I would love to see some data supporting this 'clear' conclusion. I have widely different data.
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Since doctors first reported the outbreak of a mysterious new disease in 1981, an estimated 900,000 Americans have been diagnosed with AIDS. Nearly half of them were men who had sex with other men, 27 percent were IV-drug users, and another 7 percent were both. But the politically incorrect truth is rarely spoken out loud: The dreaded heterosexual epidemic never happened.
Straight men and women make up 90 percent of the population, but they account for only 15 percent of non-childhood AIDS cases. Only 6 percent of men with AIDS, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says, contracted the virus from straight sex. And even that figure doesn't hold up to a closer look. Several studies now suggest that most men who claim they got the virus this way are lying. They got it from sex with other men or sharing needles with addicts. Those studies also show that many women listed in the straight-sex category are either IV-drug users themselves or have likely contracted AIDS from sex with an IV drug user.
Health officials have known these things for years. A growing pile of federally funded reports on HIV transmission, published over the past decade and available to anyone who has the time to read them, shows that men almost never get HIV from women. In fact, according to a 1998 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, a disease-free man who has an unprotected one-nighter with a drug-free woman stands a one in 5 million chance of getting HIV. If he wears a condom, it�s one in 50 million. He�s more likely to be struck by lightning (one in 7000,000). |
Its very difficult to get AIDS from vaginal intercourse, especially for a guy. That doesn't make it a gay disease, per se, as some straight people do have anal sex. I think we also need to remember how easy it is to get AIDS from sharing needles. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Here are the stats of risk of contracting HIV for various acts.
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#These estimates of risk of transmission from sexual exposure assume no condom use.
The risk for blood transfusion is approximately 9,000 per 10,000 exposures to blood contaminated with HIV.
*Refers to oral intercourse performed on a man.
This figure reproduced and modified from Smith DK, Grohskopf LA, Black RJ, et al. Antiretroviral postexposure prophylaxis after sexual, injection-drug use, or other nonoccupational exposure to HIV in the United States: recommendations from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. MMWR 2005;54(No. RR-2):1-20. |
http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/post/case5/fig1d.html
Heterosexual sex (non-anal) is measurably more safe than anal-intercourse. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's not start in on this again. I've addressed the issues Blacks are facing and it has nothing to do with which sex is more dangerous. Let's focus on the issues here people. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree Octavious.
Like I said something is not adding up.
50% of AIDS cases in America are from the African American population which only represent about 13% of the total population.
Now look at the meathods by which the HIV virus is transmitted.
I think the sharing of needles is a huge problem especially in the inner cities.
But the other major factor is through anal sex followed by penial-vaginal intercourse. So if you take away needle sharing, basically it adds up to homosexual sex (anal) and likely bisexual sex (dudes who have sex with men and then go on to have sex with a female).
Basically if the odds of contracting HIV from a female are so low then where are all these black men contracting the virus from?
This poses some interesting questions. Now I'm not saying that the black race (bad word I know) has a higher degree of homosexual and bisexual activity (although I'm not discounting that).
However, I think it likely has more to do with a lack of education and possibly that within the black community it's more acceptable to be promiscuous and to have many sexual partners.
Now before I get attacked for this last comment, let's take a look at the number of single mothers within the black community. It's a serious probem.
And poverty can explain a lot of this but you can't deny the cultural factors behind this as well. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| As I said in an earlier post one of the most signifcant issue is the homosexuality issue. It's not that there's more homosexuals (there's no proof to back that up and most HIV in Africa is driectly related to heterosexual sex) its that more Black men go to prison than Whites (in respect to populations size) and the "downlow" syndrome. |
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