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catman
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 Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: America invaded Korea? |
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Every hear gems like this before? This seems to be the line being towed by radical students.
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THE REAL FACT is the US INVADED KOREA creating North and South. The KOREAN WAR started in 1946.
This is a revisionism at the max. There was no south and north korea until the US invaded Korea in 1946 creating massive guerrilla insurgency in the south. Kim Ill Sung with the aid of Russia kicked the Japanese out but Truman fearing Korea may turn communist invaded korea and fought with the koreans into a stalemate in 1946. A Geneva convention pact was signed to unite the Koreas with US boy Syngman Ree as the candidate, upon polls show, Syngman wasnt as popular as Kim Ill Sung is among the Koreans hence the US foregone the election violating what was agreed upon.
With no promise of democracy uniting the country the peasant revolution in 1948 among south koreans was crushed heavy handedly by the US, millions were killed on the onslaught. The US accused the North of aiding the guerrillas in the south and hence started bombing the north with artillery and b-29 bombers hence through that provocation, the North with Stalin's approval had no choice but to go down South and take out American artillery that was hitting them constantly.
Dont be blind by reading American history only because it is skewed, ask yourself first how it was split up? North did not invade south as both were koreas, the northerners and southerners at that time see this war as an anti imperialist war and do not abide the borders created by the US invasion of korea in 1946. This same rule applies in the fake western demarkation of north and south vietnam. Both north and south vietnamese like the koreans were focused on united nationalism hence do not see the border as any thing as an imperial order that breaches their soveriegnty.
Face it Americans fought with all Koreans in the Korean war this is why they were overwhelmed so much that in the end they have to call the Europeans to save their asses. Aside from the puppets in the South virtually no one in South Korea fought for the Americans. Read both South and North Korean history, they are more accurate in the accounts of this hence this is why there is massive resentments against americans in both sides of the Koreas. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah ok.. there were less then 500 gi begining of the korean war. This guy needs to be sent to North Korea. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, the most shocking thing to me is that this is news to some of you. There are actually professors who teach this sort of crap in universities today. In the good old days they would be imprisoned, tortured and broken. Today they thrive like weeds, and some, like Kang Man-gil are gurus to the president.
Racetraitor's father-in-law might agree with the quoted text. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Posting a ridiculous quote with no source is just about as dumb.
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, because every nation the Soviets freed, were a) quickly given back their independence b) the people enjoyed prosperous lives. |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Reminds me of a time when I taught college back in the States in the mid-80s. We had a group of PRC Chinese professors visiting the college. One evening, my wife and I were talking with them and I noticed a puzzled look on the Chinese profs' faces when my wife said, "On June 25, 1950, when NK troops attacked the South..." Of course, they were taught it was the other way around (Yeah, right, South Koreans launched an attack on the North's tanks and artillery with sidearms, M1 rifles, and maybe a light machine gun here and there...).
My dad's ship was in Korea in the early fall of 1945 to help repatriate Japanese troops to Japan. No invasion necessary--the US was already here. Actually, although it is mostly a load of tripe, there are elements of truth in the OP's quote. I'm simplifying this greatly, but in essence, the US listened to the first group of Koreans it encountered, who were a staunchly anti-communist minority; they warned the US not to listen to the other group, which is advice the US heeded. The attitude the US took after that drove many would-be supporters into the Northern camp. Again, that's greatly simplified.
"Kim Il-sung" didn't even come into the picture until sometime later. His real name wasn't even "Kim Il-sung"--it was Kim Sung-ju. At first, Kim was completely ignored by the Soviets. As history shows, he did eventually get their attention. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| its classic North Korea propoganda, think the OP is from the Lonely Planet Korea guide |
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Teufelswacht
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Please provide the source and/or link. Thanks. |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe the US did invade Korea in about 1877, with one ship, they lost. |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote: |
| I believe the US did invade Korea in about 1877, with one ship, they lost. |
1871, actually, but no ships were lost (look at the Shinmiyangyo link in my sig). You might be thinking of 1866, but in that case, the ship (General Sherman) was a privately owned vessel. |
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Boodleheimer
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
Racetraitor's father-in-law might agree with the quoted text. |
No, he wouldn't. |
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jhaelin
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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even if the OP's quoted interpretation of history appears unbelievable at first, it should still be given more critical thought than a simple dismisal.
think of how popular history will view the iraq war 50 years from now.
and if some minority group in the future should reflect on the iraq war as an aggressive war started by the united states to secure resources, will they be serially dismissed as crazy revisionists...or should they be seen as brave seekers in a world hostile to truth? |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: Re: America invaded Korea? |
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| catman wrote: |
Every hear gems like this before? This seems to be the line being towed by radical students.
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THE REAL FACT is the US INVADED KOREA creating North and South. The KOREAN WAR started in 1946.
This is a revisionism at the max. There was no south and north korea until the US invaded Korea in 1946 creating massive guerrilla insurgency in the south. Kim Ill Sung with the aid of Russia kicked the Japanese out but Truman fearing Korea may turn communist invaded korea and fought with the koreans into a stalemate in 1946. A Geneva convention pact was signed to unite the Koreas with US boy Syngman Ree as the candidate, upon polls show, Syngman wasnt as popular as Kim Ill Sung is among the Koreans hence the US foregone the election violating what was agreed upon.
With no promise of democracy uniting the country the peasant revolution in 1948 among south koreans was crushed heavy handedly by the US, millions were killed on the onslaught. The US accused the North of aiding the guerrillas in the south and hence started bombing the north with artillery and b-29 bombers hence through that provocation, the North with Stalin's approval had no choice but to go down South and take out American artillery that was hitting them constantly.
Dont be blind by reading American history only because it is skewed, ask yourself first how it was split up? North did not invade south as both were koreas, the northerners and southerners at that time see this war as an anti imperialist war and do not abide the borders created by the US invasion of korea in 1946. This same rule applies in the fake western demarkation of north and south vietnam. Both north and south vietnamese like the koreans were focused on united nationalism hence do not see the border as any thing as an imperial order that breaches their soveriegnty.
Face it Americans fought with all Koreans in the Korean war this is why they were overwhelmed so much that in the end they have to call the Europeans to save their asses. Aside from the puppets in the South virtually no one in South Korea fought for the Americans. Read both South and North Korean history, they are more accurate in the accounts of this hence this is why there is massive resentments against americans in both sides of the Koreas. |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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think of how popular history will view the iraq war 50 years from now.
and if some minority group in the future should reflect on the iraq war as an aggressive war started by the united states to secure resources, will they be serially dismissed as crazy revisionists...or should they be seen as brave seekers in a world hostile to truth? |
dude, that's exactly how the Iraqi war will be viewed in 50 years. |
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