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Gatsby
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Nevermind.
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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I must add that a personal relationship with Christ is far apart from religion. A personal relationship is believing Jesus was who he said, following his teachings, and believing in the bible and its principles. A personal relationship is a love for Christ.
Try it yourself... |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Hi Gatsby,
I'm going out now... so I wll try to reply later on or tomorrrow.
Bonsoir |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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So................ya'll gonna pass that bong, or what?
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| blynch wrote: |
I must add that a personal relationship with Christ is far apart from religion. A personal relationship is believing Jesus was who he said, following his teachings, and believing in the bible and its principles. A personal relationship is a love for Christ.
Try it yourself... |
I did, but
I'm better now.
Have a good night out. |
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Grimalkin
Joined: 22 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: |
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I majored in physics & biochemistry.
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Yes, science is interesting. I majored in science - physics & biochemistry.
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Okay this is the second time you've made this claim and something is just not adding up.......I gotta call bullsht....
Firstly...What university offers a double major in physics and biochemistry???
These two branches of science are soooooooo different I don't think it's possible to major in both of them. But if there really is a university in the world that offers a double major in them please feel free to correct me!
Secondly I find it hard to believe that somebody who has studied either physics or biochemistry would make such a basic mistake such as saying that an electron is anti-matter (particularly when you also said that you didn't really believe in anti-matter...so a science major who doesn't believe in electrons???)
Thirdly...a physics major who didn't realise that the red shift data suggesting that galaxies were accelerating away from each other also means that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate!
Fourthly...your scientific statements have a certain cut and paste quality to them as if your not fully grasping the significance to them. A quality that (dare I say it) is somehow Junior/Rapier-like??? 
You wouldn't be lying to us would you.....Jesus wouldn't like that! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| There is evidence that Jesus existed. The ancient Jewish historian Josephus (sp?)records that Jesus did indeed live. I think that's about all he recorded on Jesus. The disciples witnessed first hand the miracles...healings, calming the water, raising Lazurus from the dead, etc. The events were recorded by 2 (Matthew/John)disciples who saw with their own eyes. I understand none of these can support the idea of the intelligent design. Look into the sky at night. There is something pulling us away, evermore hinting that we are walking wonderlands full ofmind, soul, eternity, space, time truth, love and God. |
The evidence is in that Pythagoras existed. However, the claims made by his followers about his miraculous birth and the miracles he performed is another matter. That we have evidence someone existed does not lend credence to their supernatural claims made by the person's followers. Mohammed's existence is a historical fact. But what of it?
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| Everything works too perfectly to have happened by chance. |
Could you give an example? No one tries to explain everything by chance alone. There are things called scientific laws. When I drop a ball, it does not land in a place by chance. It follows some basic laws of science. Chance alone does not explain, say, the products of evolution. There are mechanism that are obeyed, for example natural selection. |
Mindmetoo,
God is genius. God is pure wonder without beginning and longing without end. God is the separation of heaven and earth. What I'm saying is that our spiritual place cannot be characterized by mass, energy, velocity, quantum numbers and things like that, and as we move away from earth into space and go beyound the farthest quasar these things dissipate into purer and rarer substances that cannot be explained scientifically. At this stage I'd say Space is spirit, with stars, nabulae, galaxies. Heaven, our God's home, pure heaven is beyond all that. God is that which unites, ties together, binds, make things one again to creat the universe and beyond. It is Love. God's love is the best evidence that you are looking for. |
Would someone who studied physics misspell nebulae? Thanks for the preaching, but you really didn't answer the question posed.
"Everything works too perfectly to have happened by chance."
Could you give an example? I don't really think the human body is something that works perfectly. Babies are born horribly deformed. The body aborts about half the eggs fertilized.
There's a really good podcast on this matter:
http://infidelguy.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=187989
Dr. Vic Stenger is professor emeritus of physics and astronomy at the University of Hawaii. His most recent work, God: The Failed Hypothesis.
He tackles the "fine tuning" argument, the idea the universe is fine tuned for life. If you think the universe is fine tuned for life, go spend more than 10 seconds in vacuum without a space suit.
Here's a fairly elementary riddle a physics major should be able to answer:
Why was Alpha upset at Gamma for Beta (at least on paper)? |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Essentially, your soul is like a complex computer. All of your history, biology, and expectations change the state you are in as you roll through life. Each slight change within and without causes a corresponding change in your soul's state.
Some folks have reached a higher state and try to maintain this state through yoga, contemplation, illustrious deeds or through helping others reach a higher state.
But the nut is that we're all going to die. Some of these deaths might be pleasant, most probably are pretty rotten. Some pass unknowingly, others in horrible pain, anger, and regret.
That final state you are in at the event horizon of your own demise is how you spend eternity, like a microscopic carbonation bubble hurling through the vastness of space. That sucks if you're murdered, which may give some justification to vengence.
pretty much.
For a very few souls there is a soul mate. It may take many, many years of this aimless hurling through the cosmos locked in that state of death until you connect with your soulmate. At that point your two states combine to form one state and you travel on together.
The God does not exist; of course not, it was only a device constructed by people.
The soul, once created in the magical dance of life, is eternal. |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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That may be or it may not be. How do you know? Are you going from personal experience or from your assumptions about the world?
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A little of both... |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| There is evidence that Jesus existed. The ancient Jewish historian Josephus (sp?)records that Jesus did indeed live. I think that's about all he recorded on Jesus. The disciples witnessed first hand the miracles...healings, calming the water, raising Lazurus from the dead, etc. The events were recorded by 2 (Matthew/John)disciples who saw with their own eyes. I understand none of these can support the idea of the intelligent design. Look into the sky at night. There is something pulling us away, evermore hinting that we are walking wonderlands full ofmind, soul, eternity, space, time truth, love and God. |
The evidence is in that Pythagoras existed. However, the claims made by his followers about his miraculous birth and the miracles he performed is another matter. That we have evidence someone existed does not lend credence to their supernatural claims made by the person's followers. Mohammed's existence is a historical fact. But what of it?
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| Everything works too perfectly to have happened by chance. |
Could you give an example? No one tries to explain everything by chance alone. There are things called scientific laws. When I drop a ball, it does not land in a place by chance. It follows some basic laws of science. Chance alone does not explain, say, the products of evolution. There are mechanism that are obeyed, for example natural selection. |
Mindmetoo,
God is genius. God is pure wonder without beginning and longing without end. God is the separation of heaven and earth. What I'm saying is that our spiritual place cannot be characterized by mass, energy, velocity, quantum numbers and things like that, and as we move away from earth into space and go beyound the farthest quasar these things dissipate into purer and rarer substances that cannot be explained scientifically. At this stage I'd say Space is spirit, with stars, nabulae, galaxies. Heaven, our God's home, pure heaven is beyond all that. God is that which unites, ties together, binds, make things one again to creat the universe and beyond. It is Love. God's love is the best evidence that you are looking for. |
Would someone who studied physics misspell nebulae? Thanks for the preaching, but you really didn't answer the question posed.
"Everything works too perfectly to have happened by chance."
Could you give an example? I don't really think the human body is something that works perfectly. Babies are born horribly deformed. The body aborts about half the eggs fertilized.
There's a really good podcast on this matter:
http://infidelguy.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=187989
Dr. Vic Stenger is professor emeritus of physics and astronomy at the University of Hawaii. His most recent work, God: The Failed Hypothesis.
He tackles the "fine tuning" argument, the idea the universe is fine tuned for life. If you think the universe is fine tuned for life, go spend more than 10 seconds in vacuum without a space suit.
Here's a fairly elementary riddle a physics major should be able to answer:
Why was Alpha upset at Gamma for Beta (at least on paper)? |
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Firstly...What university offers a double major in physics and biochemistry???
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Did I ever say that? I majored in science... more specifically 'physics'. But i took many biochem classes such as biochem, molecular bio, genetics, immunology (not quite biochem thou), etc... because I wanted to go to med school.
"Why was Alpha upset at Gamma for Beta " mindmetoo, be more specific if you wanna put me to the test.
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"Everything works too perfectly to have happened by chance."
Could you give an example? I already gave plenty of examples.
Believe in Your faith.
"Secondly I find it hard to believe that somebody who has studied either physics or biochemistry would make such a basic mistake such as saying that an electron is anti-matter (particularly when you also said that you didn't really believe in anti-matter...so a science major who doesn't believe in electrons???)
What??? It's a relative term. Study harder...
Thirdly...a physics major who didn't realise that the red shift data suggesting that galaxies were accelerating away from each other also means that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate!
You are right! And I know it too. Why do you think i didnt realize?
Man... i gotta go. so c ya!
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Grimalkin
Joined: 22 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Did I ever say that? I majored in science... more specifically 'physics'. But i took many biochem classes such as biochem, molecular bio, genetics, immunology (not quite biochem thou), etc... because I wanted to go to med school.
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Yes you did say that! Okay here it is again.
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I majored in physics & biochemistry. |
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| "Secondly I find it hard to believe that somebody who has studied either physics or biochemistry would make such a basic mistake such as saying that an electron is anti-matter (particularly when you also said that you didn't really believe in anti-matter...so a science major who doesn't believe in electrons???) |
What??? It's a relative term. Study harder... |
Study harder.....so I can make the same mistake that you did???
Come on, no true science major would think that an electron is anti-matter!
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| Thirdly...a physics major who didn't realise that the red shift data suggesting that galaxies were accelerating away from each other also means that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate! |
You are right! And I know it too. Why do you think i didnt realize? |
Because in an earlier post you tried to refute my point that the universe was expanding at an accelerating rate by telling me that the red shift data showed that the galaxies were accelerating away from each other. Any true physics major would know that this confirmed not refuted my point!
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| The red shift tendency data does not show that the universe is expanding into 'something'. It simply shows that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate. |
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The red shift tendency actually means galaxies are moving away each other at an accelerating rate. |
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Did I mention that your method of obfuscation also has a very distinctive Junior/Rapier-like style! |
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ptarmigan
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| You spelled nebulae as nabulae. The riddle would be fairly obvious to anyone who majored in physics. And you did not give an example of something in the universe that works a little too perfect. |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Gatsby, Grimalkin, Mindmetoo,
Hey you guys are annoying.
If you want to challenge my intelligence (or simply want to wind me up)... study more and come back with legimate science/math questions (instead of trying to play games).
And do not show me your detective skills. That makes you look stpd.
You guys are no match for me.
I'll give you examples.
1. Physics
Mathematical induction of time dilation (as in Einstein's special theory of relativity)
Schroedinger's time-dependent wave equation
Kinematics
Conversion btwn PE & KE, balance btwn centropedal force & gravitational force (Rollercoaster of love!)
Nulclear decay and half life
Torque
Thermodynamics of heat engine
Electric circuit
Static electricity
Particle in a box
2. Chemistry
Thermodynamics of heat reaction
Chemical bonding
Acid-base titration
Quantum numbers and atomic orbital theory
Molecular orbital theory and hybridization
Redox reaction
Gas law
Ionization energy, bond energy
3. Biology (or Biochem)
Cyclic and noncyclic photosystem
Fermentation and cellular respiration
Oxidative phosphorylation
Biosynthesis
Passive and active transport
Properties of water
Production of B/T cells, antibodies,
Enzymatic reaction
DNA replication
Gene expression - RNA transcription & protein translatoin
Thermodynamics of biochemical reaction
4. Mathematics
You tell me. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Chemical bonding is an example of something that's "a little too perfect"? Isn't this like saying 2+2 = 4 is a little too perfect?
Ummm, isn't it because DNA replication is imperfect that we have mutations and hence one method by which species evolve? How is this an example of something that's a little too perfect?
Your list is essentially meaningless in the context of things that are a little too perfect. Why don't you pick your best example and briefly explain why you think it is "a little too perfect"?
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| That makes you look stpd. |
Err. |
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