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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Who needs better defending from this mass hysteria? The majority or the minority? |
9/11, Madrid, London, Bali |
You're right. That's a perfectly acceptable reason for prejudging all of the other Muslims in the world. |
How about this one: very little Muslim opposition to radical muslims. i.e. lack of concern from the co-called moderate muslims. Where are they? |
How many moderate Muslims have you spoken to? |
Why should I have to? Why arent they VOCAL? Wheres the PUBLIC opposition? Being opposed to the radicalism in provate is USELESS. |
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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
Who needs better defending from this mass hysteria? The majority or the minority? |
9/11, Madrid, London, Bali |
You're right. That's a perfectly acceptable reason for prejudging all of the other Muslims in the world. |
How about this one: very little Muslim opposition to radical muslims. i.e. lack of concern from the co-called moderate muslims. Where are they? |
How many moderate Muslims have you spoken to? |
Why should I have to? Why arent they VOCAL? Wheres the PUBLIC opposition? Being opposed to the radicalism in provate is USELESS. |
This is just speculation. Radical and moderate muslims are part of the same community. They know each other. Perhaps speaking out is not entirely wise, considering that some radicals have been seen to be capable of mass murder. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Why should I have to? Why arent they VOCAL? Wheres the PUBLIC opposition? Being opposed to the radicalism in provate is USELESS. |
Why do they need to denounce a sect that doesn't represent them? What have you done to publicly oppose radicalism?
I don't remember Southern whites protesting the KKK in the 60s, Christians protesting Fred Phelps today, or North Carolinians turning in Eric Rudolph.
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
Who needs better defending from this mass hysteria? The majority or the minority? |
9/11, Madrid, London, Bali |
You're right. That's a perfectly acceptable reason for prejudging all of the other Muslims in the world. |
How about this one: very little Muslim opposition to radical muslims. i.e. lack of concern from the co-called moderate muslims. Where are they? |
How many moderate Muslims have you spoken to? |
Why should I have to? Why arent they VOCAL? Wheres the PUBLIC opposition? Being opposed to the radicalism in provate is USELESS. |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070310.wxrenounce10/BNStory/International/home
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Unlike non-religious Jews (who form a majority in Israel and elsewhere) or non-observant Christians, cultural Muslims aren't acknowledged by their own religion and are barely recognized by Western governments. Their numbers are unknown, but European studies indicate that a sizable majority of immigrants from Muslim countries do not regularly attend mosques, that fewer than 10 per cent of Muslim young people pray with any regularity and that a majority of Muslim immigrants consider themselves largely secular.
�This is a German identity problem,� Ms. Toker said. �When the German government looks at me or at her, they just say �Muslim.' And if they want to know about what we think, they ask Muslim leaders. They seem unable to realize that we are very different individuals and that maybe we're not Muslim at all.�
Much of the debate around Muslim immigrants has concerned questions of integration: Have they become isolated from mainstream European society? But this debate brings up a new dimension. Ms. Toker is a firm assimilationist; she wants to be seen as fully German, and believes in universal European values. Ms. Zainal, on the other hand, identifies herself as �Iranian-German� and is in favour of a multicultural country made up of differing ethnic communities. Both, however, were incensed when the German government held hearings into ethnic assimilation and invited mainly mosque-based organizations to participate. That sense of exclusion led to the formation of their group. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| BLah Islam like any other religion is the perfect media for brain washing. Islam being the worst. |
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