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Arirang has to be stopped
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Arirang has to be stopped Reply with quote

I can't believe this station. This weekend they graciously taught me that giving up your seat to elders is an etiquette that foreigners learn from Koreans. Rolling Eyes Where do they get this crap!? Funny, but every time I'm on the subway I seems to be the only person getting up for the old folk.

I really wish I could stop watching, but it's just so painful that I can't.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... really.

How come, then, that kids nowadays don't give up seats for the elderly?! I see they've *unlearned* this important etiquette!

I get really p*ssed off when kids turn their face away so they pretend not to see an elderly person get on the bus or subway.. I was 9 months pregnant and on the bus once (in Daejeon). An old grandma got on the bus, no one gave her a seat, *I* got up........ I was so ready to tell some of those kids off, but I didn't speak enough Korean, and I knew yelling at them in English wouldn't do any good. So I just vented it all out on my husband instead... lol.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Wow... really.

How come, then, that kids nowadays don't give up seats for the elderly?! I see they've *unlearned* this important etiquette!

I get really p*ssed off when kids turn their face away so they pretend not to see an elderly person get on the bus or subway.. I was 9 months pregnant and on the bus once (in Daejeon). An old grandma got on the bus, no one gave her a seat, *I* got up........ I was so ready to tell some of those kids off, but I didn't speak enough Korean, and I knew yelling at them in English wouldn't do any good. So I just vented it all out on my husband instead... lol.


I think in that case you are justified in using violence. I just grab em by the ear and reef em out of the seat if that be the case.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought this thread was going to be:

Arirang has to be stopped... and I'm going to stop it. (dons blast jacket and writes goodbye notes to kin)
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Arirang has to be stopped Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
I can't believe this station. This weekend they graciously taught me that giving up your seat to elders is an etiquette that foreigners learn from Koreans. Rolling Eyes Where do they get this crap!? Funny, but every time I'm on the subway I seems to be the only person getting up for the old folk.

I really wish I could stop watching, but it's just so painful that I can't.


Ha! And I bet it was the kyopo-canadian guy with the freaky Mr. Sulu voice who read that line too, wasn't it?
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Arirang has to be stopped Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
Newbie wrote:
I can't believe this station. This weekend they graciously taught me that giving up your seat to elders is an etiquette that foreigners learn from Koreans. Rolling Eyes Where do they get this crap!? Funny, but every time I'm on the subway I seems to be the only person getting up for the old folk.

I really wish I could stop watching, but it's just so painful that I can't.


Ha! And I bet it was the kyopo-canadian guy with the freaky Mr. Sulu voice who read that line too, wasn't it?


Laughing Laughing Laughing That is soooo right on the money. I always thought he sounded funny. Spot on! Now I'll picture Sulu on the bridge of the Enterprise looking into a camera spouting all that nonsense on that station.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having been to the Phillipines a few times, I've noticed that Arirang airs in certain areas of the country. Given that Boracay and other islands are top travel destinations for Koreans, it was no surprise that the local friends I made there find the station to be absolutely hilarious.

It's pretty simple. If Korea really wants to be taken seriously by the international community, it needs to take an honest look at the kind of fantasy drivel that station churns out and put a stop to the mind-numbing propaganda. The station is like one of those looped info guides to 5-star hotels that talk about all the luxurious amenities for guests.

The fluff pieces are what really get me. I mean, hanbok dresses are cool and all, but does it really "accentuate the female figure with it's long flowing lines"?? Rolling Eyes In terms of the female figure, the hanbok is the traditional equivalent of tying a sweater around your waist to cover up the mom-butt.
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seoulshock



Joined: 12 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

90% of the time, I'm the first to give up my seat -- even after waiting a few seconds to see if anyone else will get up. Oh well.

To be honest though, I don't think I give it up out of wanting to be nice to the elderly, but more so that I don't feel like an ass.

I never give up my seat for pregnant women though.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulshock wrote:
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I never give up my seat for pregnant women though.


Why not?
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compare the following. ABC, BBC, CBC, Arirang. One of these kids is doing its own thang.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
seoulshock wrote:
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I never give up my seat for pregnant women though.


Why not?


they knew what they were getting into... (my guess)

but seriously, why wouldn't you give up your seat for a pregnant lady?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arirang really does seem quite genuinely popular in SE Asia. As I've said before, why don't they just change their broadcasting language to Thai and save everyone else the trouble.
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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would give up my seat to an elderly person (over 60) or a pregnant woman, but nobody else. I'm over 40, I work hard, I'm tired, and I was there first.

It sometimes gets to me how some young Korean male will whiz past me to grab a seat. Jezz buddy, would you jump into my grave as quickly? I often take the opportunity to clock him in the head with my notebook bag, or cannon into him like a 90kg pinball. Oh, sorry, mate!
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know people who work at Arirang, and they say the way Arirang TV hires people to host its shows is first their command of the Korean language, second their appearance and third their English ability (if any).

The main reason for the Korean language requirement is that most of the production staff are not fluent in English themselves, making me wonder how the hell they were hired.

The program Drama Theater is one of the worst, with hosts whose speech is not comprehensible. The hostess now is a girl who studied acting in Canada, but her English is eww.

Many of the Southeast Asians who watch Arirang probably can't speak good English themselves, so what do they know?

If you guys really want to protest, go to the Arirang Web page and post on the respective bulletin boards of each show. If enough people complain about the format, it COULD lead to changes, as Arirang now is seeking viewer opinions.

Seriously, if enough people think a host sucks and writes about it, the network could be prodded into making a change. The strange thing is, Arirang has staff who THINK they're good at English. It's like a mental patient thinking he has no problem.
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Arirang has to be stopped Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
Funny, but every time I'm on the subway I seems to be the only person getting up for the old folk.


The reason is because the rude old-fart ajummas and halmony have already rushed/pushed/shoved their way into the available seats.

I stopped wanting to give up my seat to an old woman by about the 3rd time in a day that I was pushed out of the way of a seat by one of them.

I only give up my seat to ones I feel are really in need of it, and I will go as far as to throw my coat in a seat before some old bitty thrusts her arm out in an attempt to plant her purse in the seat I'm an inch from sitting in.

I make it a part of at least one uni lesson to mention the difference between old people accepting a seat thankfully, and rudefully pushing/shoving into one, expecting to get it. I make sure they understand that people from other countries think low of Koreans for the rudeness they show in this behavior.

Respect is a two-way street.
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