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Canuck Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: 84,000 Canadian Muslims Support Terrorism Against Canada |
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84,000 Canadian Muslims Support Terrorism Against Canada, Poll says:
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Corbella_Licia/2007/02/18/3642930-sun.html
Yikes! glad im in Korea.
Even more disturbing than the result of the CBC poll is the way the Canadian media glosses over it. "Please don't offend the people who think it's ok to blow you up."
Makes me almost wish I was American; almost. |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| Ouch... |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| Integration fans? Where are you? DD? the other muslim apologists? |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Integration fans? Where are you? DD? the other muslim apologists? |
Now, how could we get the other 620,000 Canadian Muslims to support terrorism against Canada? Maybe talking about deporting them will help. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| jinju wrote: |
| Integration fans? Where are you? DD? the other muslim apologists? |
Now, how could we get the other 620,000 Canadian Muslims to support terrorism against Canada? Maybe talking about deporting them will help. |
dont talk. just do. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| dont talk. just do. |
Good start! |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: Re: 84,000 Canadian Muslims Support Terrorism Against Canada |
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Well, not actually.
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| Fully 12% of Muslim Canadians polled by Environics said the alleged terrorist plot -- that included kidnapping and beheading the prime minister and blowing up Parliament and the CBC -- was justified. |
There's a difference. Although believing attacks are justified is not acceptable, it's a far cry from support. At least in my book.
Not to mention that we have no data for the corresponding non-Muslims. Without a control group, this factoid is statistically meaningless.
Heck, what percent of the Irish felt blowing British Parliament was justified.? What percent of white southerners in the 60s thought lynching blacks was justified? What percent of Quebecois feel blowing up Canadian Parliament would be justified? How many Brits felt burning down the White House was jusitified?
Of course, I'll be derided as an apologist for actually critically analyzing the data. Fact is, 88% of Muslims don't believe that attacks are justified. Islam is not the problem. Muslims are not the problem. 12% of Muslims are problematic. Heck, it's really only the 18 arrested who are the problem, and that's assuming the government has a real case. 18/700,000. What is that? .002%. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: Re: 84,000 Canadian Muslims Support Terrorism Against Canada |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
Well, not actually.
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| Fully 12% of Muslim Canadians polled by Environics said the alleged terrorist plot -- that included kidnapping and beheading the prime minister and blowing up Parliament and the CBC -- was justified. |
There's a difference. Although believing attacks are justified is not acceptable, it's a far cry from support. At least in my book.
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It never fails to amaze how far you libs and apologists will go in your verbal gymnastics. Really, I do admire your ability to twist the facts to meet your PC agenda. Well, maybe admire iusnt the right word. Maybe I should say "Im revolted" instead. |
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bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Location: All over the place
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| I can't believe you people haven't realised what scum these people are. The come to our countries and take the piss out of our freedom and try to use it against us. Sadly it will take a few attacks in the future for people to realise that they don't belong in our countries. I am sure people will love this post, but I really couldn't give a $shite. I hate Muslims and wish we could deport the lot of the a$$holes..... |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: Re: 84,000 Canadian Muslims Support Terrorism Against Canada |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Really, I do admire your ability to twist the facts |
What facts did I twist? I didn't change the wording of the question to suit my agenda. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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The fact that 88% of the Muslims oppose that. Of course, I would prefer it if the figure was 95%. 12% is not so minor. I suppose these are the kind of Muslims who oppose the presence of Canadian troops in Afghanistan and feel it is some assault against Islam. What I would like to know is the breakdown among Muslims. Where was most of the 12% from. Where most of them from South Asia near Afghanistan, Egypt?
I think that is important. Of course, I think this is disturbing, but it is not the same as saying they would do that or want to do that. I would say there is probably a minority of fanatical English and French Canadians.
Plenty of people in the U.S. would like to drop nuclear bombs on the Middle East. That is an extreme view. Probably we could find 12% of the population who think like that. I think, of course, Muslims who come to Canada should be drawn from the more educated classes, people need to be screened better. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Look its easy, fun with stats!!!!!
Canada UFO Sightings Jump By 42% Last Year
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc423.htm
Kidnapping in Foreign Countries
http://danger.mongabay.com/kidnapping_stats.htm
The most common causes of mortality amoung "blacks" in the United States
http://danger.mongabay.com/causes_of_death_black.htm
Drowning and submersion following fall into bath-tub by country
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_dro_and_sub_fol_fal_int_bat_tub-following-fall-into-bath-tub
See, anyone can com up with stats, let me try:
98% of gay men prefer astroglide lube. www.octavius-hite.com
BTW the Sun is a rag that I wouldn't wipe my a$$ with and yes that diminishes the legitimacy of the stat. If the CBC, a world renowned journalism center, chooses not to run with something, maybe, just maybe its because its an over-hyped piece of trash designed solely to inflame right-wing bigot lunatics (see above posters).
And low and behold a simple "the google" search shows us that the author, Licia Corbella (despite having spelt her name in the most retarded way) is a right-wing bombthrower and plagerist! Well, if you can't trust that, who can you trust? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| Heck, what percent of the Irish felt blowing British Parliament was justified.? |
I personally have known at least three Irish-Canadians, all of them independently of one another, who claimed to support IRA bombings.
I mean, think about it. My family isn't Irish, and I have never made a point of hanging out in Irish circles. But simply by encountering Irish people in a random fashion, I've managed to meet three of them who cheer for the IRA. Assuming my experience is not a complete fluke, I would wager that there are a significant number of people in the Irish diaspora who give verbal support to terrorism. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Marion Boyd, proponent of recognising Shariah Law in Ontario, is turning over in her grave. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: 84,000 Canadian Muslims Support Terrorism Against Canada |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
Well, not actually.
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| Fully 12% of Muslim Canadians polled by Environics said the alleged terrorist plot -- that included kidnapping and beheading the prime minister and blowing up Parliament and the CBC -- was justified. |
There's a difference. Although believing attacks are justified is not acceptable, it's a far cry from support. At least in my book.
Not to mention that we have no data for the corresponding non-Muslims. Without a control group, this factoid is statistically meaningless.
Heck, what percent of the Irish felt blowing British Parliament was justified.? What percent of white southerners in the 60s thought lynching blacks was justified? What percent of Quebecois feel blowing up Canadian Parliament would be justified? How many Brits felt burning down the White House was jusitified?
Of course, I'll be derided as an apologist for actually critically analyzing the data. Fact is, 88% of Muslims don't believe that attacks are justified. Islam is not the problem. Muslims are not the problem. 12% of Muslims are problematic. Heck, it's really only the 18 arrested who are the problem, and that's assuming the government has a real case. 18/700,000. What is that? .002%. |
Heck, I'm sure if you asked the same question to the other Canadians, you'd get the same answers. |
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