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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:
I've got to say that those directions really aren't too clear!!

I guess that's the Sonin Plaza building?

spliff - come one dude, build it yourself! that's what I'm going to be doing.. my first one.. of course, then I'll be back on here a day later saying "How do I build a computer?"


I'd really like to but since never doing it before, it will be to much of a challange. Sucks. too..as I live in Yongin and don't really know how I'm gonna get a built com and 22" lcd home w/out spending an arm and a leg on a taxi. And, if the shop that builds it for 40,000 or so can put an OS on it for free.... Very Happy
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can run a philips screwdriver and plug wiring connections that only plug in the proper way (no way to screw it up) you can build your own rig from a pile of boxed components.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...I can run a Philips but, I haven't a clue about coms. Don't even know where most of the components go. You know a site that goes through the process step by step?


Anyway, got my components listed and priced now. But, I have a few questions I hope some of the more knowledgeable can help me with. My MB is the Asus P5B Deluxe and CPU is the Intel Core 2Duo E6400. I want to go w/ a Zalman cpu fan w/ thermal grease but I don't know which model or size I should go with (80 or 120 mm) Can someone please recommend a Zalman model for me that will work well with this MB/CPU combo?
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just have a look at their site and find one that appeals to you. If it were me, I would probably go with this one. Prety basic. The Zalman site also has installation movies for you to watch.

Google "how to build a PC" and you will find what you need to put it together. Alternately, you could order the parts for Yongsan, have them delivered to Yongin, take it to a local shop and have them build it and install the OS you want.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea Dem but will the "local shop" have OS I want...English version XP? I sorta doubt it. I live out in the boon docks. Maybe I'll inquire about it at a shop in Yonging city.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if you'd need an extra fan.. it already comes with a heat sink and fan when you buy it, and unless you're going to do some overclocking, I would think that would be enough
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know but, I've heard the intel fans are second rate and noisy. However, I may decide to go w/ it.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, naturally they're not the best, but you might as well try it out, see how it works for you.. one person's "so noisy I can't sleep" might be barely noticeable by someone else

can always spend money later to get the upgrade to a Zalman
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^True, indeed! I will probably do so to save money as the project is up around 1,400,000 now... Will post the full inventory w/ prices later on in the day.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Zalman heatsink fan is only around 40,000 at Yongsan. That's money well spent for lower noise and lower temperatures. My Intel stock heatsink fan was noisy, ineffective and difficult to keep dust-free. The fins are really close together and even a can of compressed air and a thin straw couldn't get the dust out at the bottom. My Zalman CNPS9500 is a remarkably better component.

As far as whether to spend more or less on the entire computer......I would just spend as much as I could comfortably afford. You'll enjoy a really good PC and it could open up other avenues of computer use that you never considered before.

I use PC's a lot so I see 1.5 mill as easily justifiable for something I will get thousands of hours of use from.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eamo, what's your MB/CPU configuration? I don't know which zalman to get for mine....Asus P5B Deluxe/E6400. Do you know which one will work? I've been told that a 120mm fan would be too big?
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you can find this cooler, it is very effective, quiet, pretty cheap too. I had the s939 version in my opty165 rig back in canada:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17225&vpn=FREEZER-7-PRO&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
Eamo, what's your MB/CPU configuration? I don't know which zalman to get for mine....Asus P5B Deluxe/E6400. Do you know which one will work? I've been told that a 120mm fan would be too big?


I have an Asus P5LD2 deluxe and an Intel D 3.0. The CNPS9500 fits comfortably with room to spare.

Will you be getting the standard-sized ATX case? The most common size. About 90% of the cases in Yongsan are this size.

If you are, then don't worry. Any Zalman CPU cooler will fit onto any of todays mainstream motherboards fitted into an ATX caase. I seen one report that Zalman have yet to exclude any mainstream mobo from their compatible list. It seems to fit them all!!

Here's Zalman's page. Choose a heatsink fan and check which socket type it fits.
http://www.zalmanusa.com/ You can see they're compatible with all the popular CPU socket types..........but you must get the standard ATX case to fit them in height-wise.

You'll have no problem with the P5B and E6400.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments so far, everyone has been...very helpful! Very Happy

Okay, so here it goes so far...did I leave anything out?


MoBo: Asus P5B Deluxe (iBora) 165,000

CPU: Intel Core@Duo E6400 210,000

CPU cooler: Zalman 30,000 - 50,000 depending on if I go for the standard fan profile or the one w/ heat pipes.

Ram: Samsung PC2 5300 FBD1mm 2gig: 339,000 (OUCH!)
or, Geil DDR2 2gig PC2 6400: 233,000
* Where can I find @Corsair here? Rolling Eyes

HDD: WD SATA2 320G 7200 16m 85,000
or, 400gig 112,000

DVD: LG GSA-4120B 56,000

PSU: Zalman ZM600H2 (600w) 134,000

VID: XFX 7600GT Zalman Triple X 152,000
or, Fatality (w/heatpipe cooling) 176,000

Case: Coupe 250 52,000

Mon: Lumion sky ocean 2201w 270,000


What about the memory? Should I go w/ the more expensive samsung or save 100,000 w/ the Geil?

So...am I completely mad? Shocked
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ram would be cheaper if you got 2x1GB
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