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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: The most difficult minimal pair for Koreans? |
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I'd say it would have to be long E and short I. Combos like sheep / ship, heel / hill, etc., they just can't seem to differentiate for the life of them. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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That's one of the biggies, isn't it? I ran across it today (live/leave). We did the trusty old sheep/ship game.
Draw a sheep on a ship and a ship on a sheep on the whiteboard. Ask: Is the ship on the sheep? while pointing to one of the pictures. They answer, "Yes, it is/No, it isn't". And then I say, "Yes, right/I'm sorry, no the sheep is on the ship."
Another fun activity is to do a Pronunciation Journey. Prepare a set of minimal pairs for the sound(s) you want to work on. Draw a 'tournament bracket' on the white board with 8 cities on the right. Write the minimal pairs on the board in pairs and tell the students to turn 'up' if they hear a word from column A or turn down if they hear a word from column B. Starting at the left, where the 'tournament winners' would be) at the first branch, say one of the pairs. At the second and third branch, say a word. Then ask which the city the students are in. I gave candy to the two or three who were in the right city.
After a few times, I would give students a chance to say the words and reward the speaker if 4 people ended up in the right city. |
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sjk1128
Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: Do you like duck? |
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dog-duck
open "o" vs. "uh"
but it doesn't happen much in English without other consonant clues to identify the word
I torture my kids with sets of four:
beat-bit-bet-bat
seat-sit-set-sat
meet-mitt-met-matt
etc.
These are also incredibly difficult - at least for kids down south in Busan. |
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sjk1128
Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: another one |
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Try long - lung.
It might be equally difficult to differentiate in pronunciation for a Korean, although the context won't likely be as funny in real life as with the animals.
I'm always taken aback for a moment when I'm invited out for "dog" (tr. "duck"). |
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Omkara

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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maybe teach them that sheep "smile," but ships do not? |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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You are probably right OP. I've always noticed the short "O" pronounced as a long one though. That's the way they write it and say it usually, in Hangul. I've had a few difficulties due to this. Some student saying, "Low Bin" and it takes a while to figure out it's "Robin." Even "on" or "long" or "dog" can cause grief. Gender confusion arises when "John" and "Joan" (and zone) sound the same in Korean pronunciation. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Location: at my wit's end
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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What a coincidence, I was just teaching /i/ and /I/ today!
I used the materials from this site:
http://www.okanagan.bc.ca/Page1205.aspx
You can get a good two hours out of each lesson. The dictations are a bit higher-level. The lesson is pretty adaptable.
I have my students read the tongue twisters and record themselves in PowerPoint, then email the file to me as an attachment.
An alternative is for them to find a partner and record the dialogue on an mp3 player.
Oh, my Korean students said that /f/ and /r/ are extremely difficult for them...
Sorry if this went too far off-topic!  |
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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Try getting Koreans saying:
"There's a sheet on the beach". It will have you on the floor rolling with laughter. |
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