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The Dude from Canada



Joined: 19 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: In Thailand Reply with quote

In Thailand I happened to meet some real English teachers. These guys and girls (mostly guys) teach only a few hours a day, live well, and get paid a fortune in Thai currency. When I talked with them, they were all too familiar with the foreign teachers coming from Korea. Basically, with their backpacks, sunglasses, sandals, and ticket back to korea all in hand. They said that these foreigners from schools in korea, and japan as well, are an annoying lot because they make themselves look like travellers, but complain because they can't get the same level of treatment and amenities they get in korea and japan.
Are foreigners in Korea really unable to cope with life anywhere outside of Korea?
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plutodog18



Joined: 01 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well now I am curious.

Is housing provided as part of the job in Thailand? If so, are they comfortable with modern conveniences (appliances, a/c, furniture, etc?)

Is airfare and year end bonus included? How about medical insurance and pension?

Finally it is believed (depending on salary and budgeting) you can save $12,000 to $20,000/year in Korea. Is it similar in Thailand?

I am not being smart, I am really trying to find out.

Thanks.
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Hapkido-In



Joined: 24 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Thailand recently. Had no problems at all. I actually had a great time. Dunno what those 'real' teachers you were talking to were on about.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met lots of English teachers last year when I was in Thailand- lots of volunteers with the Burmese refugees, and others teaching in public schools there. From what they said it didn't sound nearly so cushy. Mind you, this was well off the tourist track and in a very poor region of the country
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: In Thailand Reply with quote

The Dude from Canada wrote:
In Thailand I happened to meet some real English teachers. These guys and girls (mostly guys) teach only a few hours a day, live well, and

1. get paid a fortune in Thai currency. When I talked with them, they were all too familiar with the foreign teachers coming from Korea. Basically,

2. with their backpacks, sunglasses, sandals, and ticket back to korea all in hand. They said that these foreigners from schools in korea, and japan as well, are an annoying lot

3. because they make themselves look like travellers


4. but complain because they can't get the same level of treatment and amenities they get in korea and japan.


5. Are foreigners in Korea really unable to cope with life anywhere outside of Korea?



1. A fortune in Thai currency.... maybe 25,000 bhat a mo. (750 USD).

2. That's why it's called vacation.

3. Yes. again, it's vacation.

4. No idea what you're talking about, but there are some real s-ithole places in Thailand.

5. What a retarted question, considering you, a teacher in Koream seemed to have no problem "coping with like outside Lorea". A lot of ppl use Korea as a jump off point for teavelling.


Thailand rocks, but I'm not signing up to teach there anytime soon.

PS, "Real English teachers"??? I sense a bit of self loathing.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plutodog18 wrote:
Well now I am curious.

1. Is housing provided as part of the job in Thailand? If so, are they comfortable with modern conveniences (appliances, a/c, furniture, etc?)

2. Is airfare and year end bonus included? How about medical insurance and pension?

3. Finally it is believed (depending on salary and budgeting) you can save $12,000 to $20,000/year in Korea. Is it similar in Thailand?

I am not being smart, I am really trying to find out.

Thanks.


(Numbers are mine, a la The Urban Myth)

1. I believe it is possible to find a school in Thailand that will provide accommodation.

2. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I would be surprised.

3. Not a chance in hell.

Thailand, IMO, would be an ideal place to be an EFL teacher if you had no outstanding financial committments, and no need to save any money up. OP says that the teachers get paid a fortune in Thai currency. In Thai currency. Yes, they probably earn more than the average Thai person, but if they have loans, credit cards and an overdraft to pay off then its not going to happen.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Thailand I happened to meet some real English teachers. These guys and girls (mostly guys) teach only a few hours a day, live well, and get paid a fortune in Thai currency. When I talked with them, they were all too familiar with the foreign teachers coming from Korea. Basically, with their backpacks, sunglasses, sandals, and ticket back to korea all in hand. They said that these foreigners from schools in korea, and japan as well, are an annoying lot because they make themselves look like travellers, but complain because they can't get the same level of treatment and amenities they get in korea and japan.
Are foreigners in Korea really unable to cope with life anywhere outside of Korea?


I'm guessing the teachers living in Korea and Japan had backpacks, sunglasses, sandals and a ticket home because they were on vacation. And those items certainly are the sign of a lesser individual, aren't they? If they weren't on vacation, maybe they had sunglasses and sandals because it's hot and sunny in Thailand. Maybe they had English books or lunch in their backpacks.

In Korea, and in Japan, you certainly can save a lot more money when it's convertered to USD, Pounds or Euros.

I think foreigners in Korea are a strong lot to be able to cope with life IN Korea. Let's face it, the culture in Thailand is more individualistic and creative, the beaches are better, most things are cheaper and they have better beer, but after all is said and done, money talks for many people and leaves Korea, or Japan, as the best option when it's all over.
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techno_the_cat



Joined: 30 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dude from Canada,

I worked in Thailand. I never met any expat teachers there that expressed an opinion like that. Work a few hours a day for a fortune?????? I worked harder in Thailand then I did in Korea by a long way. Man, I know thai weed is nice, but seriously mate, you need to get off it.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plutodog18 wrote:
Well now I am curious.

Is housing provided as part of the job in Thailand? If so, are they comfortable with modern conveniences (appliances, a/c, furniture, etc?)

Is airfare and year end bonus included? How about medical insurance and pension?

Finally it is believed (depending on salary and budgeting) you can save $12,000 to $20,000/year in Korea. Is it similar in Thailand?

I am not being smart, I am really trying to find out.

Thanks.


Well it all depends upon the strength of the currency doesn't it? Laughing
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Thai teachers, both native and foreign, have such a stellar reputation, don't they? And the ex-pat community in general in Thailand must be the most respectable in all of Asia, no doubt. They certainly wouldn't want those of us who have set up shop in Korea coming down to soil their glowing reputation.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working in a standard school in Thailand is just like working in a public school in Korea in many ways, although at least in Thailand they don't try to take away your vacation time. Average pay is between 30-40,000 baht, including free (basic) accommodation, which is plenty for living and some travelling, but obviously you can't expect to save as much as you would do in Korea. There are also many more temptations to spend money in Thailand that there aren't in Korea.
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had it pretty good teaching in northeast Thailand, free 4-room apartment for the wife and I at a boarding school, free lunch and laundry as well. Salary was 25,000 baht, about US600, a month, enough to live well month to month, but hard to save anything beyond that.
The school is always looking to hire native speakers if anyone's interested.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: In Thailand Reply with quote

The Dude from Canada wrote:
In Thailand I happened to meet some real English teachers. These guys and girls (mostly guys) teach only a few hours a day, live well, and get paid a fortune in Thai currency. When I talked with them, they were all too familiar with the foreign teachers coming from Korea. Basically, with their backpacks, sunglasses, sandals, and ticket back to korea all in hand. They said that these foreigners from schools in korea, and japan as well, are an annoying lot because they make themselves look like travellers, but complain because they can't get the same level of treatment and amenities they get in korea and japan.
Are foreigners in Korea really unable to cope with life anywhere outside of Korea?


I heard that all the teachers are in Thailand because they are child molesting losers. And if female, atleast they could get some by paying a small amount of money unlike other places being the fat ugly chicks they are.

Luckily for me though, I prefer thinking to making wild generalizations.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dude from canada is so off the mark it isn't funny. Thailand is the dumping ground of Asia in terms of expats, heaps of REALLY shady characters on the run from something willing to fork out 300 dollars for a fake TESOL certificate and work for peanuts ( well peanuts being booze and 500 bht. shorttime hookers). You don't need a degree to teach in thailand, they take anyone with a TESOL, hence the amount of dodgy types. I'd love to teach there, korea can't compare on so many levels to thailand, but as things are the moneys all in korea.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about Thailand, but I couldn't believe what I heard about Cambodia. Apparently there are some English teachers there raking in $2000 US per month. And I use that term "raking in" since it is in fact Cambodia, and you can live VERY well on that kind of money there. Are they "real" teachers? I believe they're no different from us! I've met others in Cambodia who were just "volunteer" teachers who don't get paid. But the paid ones there do exist, must be a small bunch though...
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