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chaz47

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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: Frank Miller's 300 |
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I read that Iran is pretty pissed off about this movie, claiming links to Persian culture.
I need to buff up my history knowledge a bit before I comment to deeply on this one, but I am sick to death of all this culture war bullshit...
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gsxr750r

Joined: 29 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Good. Let them be pissed.
Hardly bad compared to denying the murder of thousands of Jews, now is it?
Whiners. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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need to buff up my history knowledge a bit |
Recommended reading: Herodotus: The Histories. (Penguin Classics edition) |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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It's a comic book story. Does it need any more explanation than that? |
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shifter2009

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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The king of Persia is 10 foot tall, they should be happy about that. |
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mack the knife

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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I went into this movie expecting to have my sh*t RAWKED, and instead I get a GAY PRIDE PARADE?!
To wit: Xerxes and his forces of ultimate fabulousness conquer the Spartans, or more precisely, they puncture with their phallic arrows the Spartans' perfectly airbrushed abs and pecs of steel.
I've nothing against either gays or hardbodies (some of my best friends are both, etc.), but in a movie where heads roll and blood splashes onto the camera lens I can't help but feel trapped by the producers who, like the guilty parties who produced "Top Gun", have you imagining that you are worshiping one ideal (glory, blood, guts, et al) whilst secretly you are being programmed to accept another.
I am more fabulous for having seen this movie.
p.s. The fay-ass pooftas from England conquered the world so I guess it's not about guts, glory, and perfect abs after all anyway.
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Oh-Ran-Ji
Joined: 25 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I saw it yesterday. The oddest aspect, in my opinion, was that all the leading Persians were black. Nothing at all wrong with being black, but Persians are/were Aryans. It just struck me as odd. The Immortals are monsters of some kind.
Rather than portraying them as gay and therefore evil, I thought it was reinforcing the idea of otherness being evil and black.
Visually, it's a pretty impressive movie. Historically, it is crap, and that's unfortunate, but it is derived from a comic book, so what can you expect? There is zero character development and I thought the theme was pretty obscure, at least obscure enough that I'm not sure what the theme was. The Greeks thought they were fighting for freedom against tyranny (a little ironically since the economies of the most successful Greek states were all based on slavery, but what the hey).
And it isn't as gory as it could have been. Very limited amounts of blood, given that heads are rolling and arms are being lopped off. When Leonidas dies, there is no blood at all to disfigure the beautiful body.
There was an odd feeling that it was filmed on a stage that was too small for it. I expect in a modern movie to feel 'real', not a filmed stage play. But that's just me.
Anyway, I'm glad I saw it and would give it a B. |
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mack the knife

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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was that all the leading Persians were black |
I think they were more brown than black. It was the lighting of the movie. I saw only a few dark skinned people, among them the Persian emissary who got his sh*t owned at the beginning of the movie (aside: that part of the movie was one of two or three parts which were historically accurate. The Athenians threw the emissaries into a ditch and the Spartans tossed theirs into a well).
I thought the scene where the Spartans watched the Persian ships taking a beating was brilliant. The music, the lighting, the animation....all brilliant.
None of the literature that I've come across mentions that Xerxes I was a flaming flamer from Flametron. Was that whole deal necessary? |
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ChuckECheese

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Firstly, I'm glad that this movie got Iranian's blood boiling. I hope those who don't like this movie have a heart attack or stroke and die.
Lastly, I saw the movie and would give it a "C+" for too much computer special effects. And as someone said, it's almost like watching a animated movie (cartoon). |
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the_beaver

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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As usual I avoided all trailers, blurbs, and discussions having anything to do with this movie. I had no idea that it was based on a comic book and all I really knew was that it was the battle of Thermopylae so I was expecting an historical movie. Well, as history it's crap, but as a graphic novel movie it's pretty good. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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mack the knife wrote: |
I went into this movie expecting to have my sh*t RAWKED, and instead I get a GAY PRIDE PARADE?!
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Well, the Spartans were as famous for their poo pushing as they were for their military prowess (I do believe homosexuality was compulsory in Sparta). So I guess something about the film was historically accurate. |
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EFLtrainer

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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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ChuckECheese wrote: |
Lastly, I saw the movie and would give it a "C+" for too much computer special effects. And as someone said, it's almost like watching a animated movie (cartoon). |
Then you should give it a higher mark: it was supposed to look like a comic book. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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babtangee wrote: |
Well, the Spartans were as famous for their spartanizing as they were for their military prowess (I do believe homosexuality was compulsory in Sparta). So I guess something about the film was historically accurate. |
Fixed it for you. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:51 am Post subject: |
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gang ah jee wrote: |
babtangee wrote: |
Well, the Spartans were as famous for their spartanizing as they were for their military prowess (I do believe homosexuality was compulsory in Sparta). So I guess something about the film was historically accurate. |
Fixed it for you. |
Heh. Thanks. Funny thing about the movie (just watched it): In it, the Spartans mock the Athenians for chasing young boys. Ah, the hypocrisy of those damn fictional Spartans. |
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