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Canucksaram
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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 Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: Why men should never marry. |
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Woe betide, us, men.
Serial dating is the only way to live, especially if you're wealthy. This report from Britain only confirms men's fears:
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From The Sunday Times (June 05, 2005)
When �500m for a divorce really just isn't enough
The founder of a club for rich divorcees talks money with Giles Hattersley
Sometimes in life, but more often in divorce, �500m just won�t cut it. �I�m inclined,� says Sue Liburd, 42, taking a neat sip of herbal tea, �to wonder why it�s only five hundred million.�
We�re sitting in a chintzy lounge at her home near Bristol talking about the soon to be ex-Mrs Aga Khan, a woman likely to secure the most Croesian divorce settlement in history and to whom Liburd has recently written.
Divorce is, after all, Liburd�s business. She tells women how to do it, how to survive it, and (when all that lovely alimony comes in) how to spend it too. In short, she is Donald Trump�s living nightmare. �The man may be a billionaire, but women can still take 50% of his assets thank you very much,� she says conversationally, �50% plus extras in fact�.
Liburd, who has never married, has just launched Talaka (Swahili for divorce), the UK�s first exclusive membership network for divorced and divorcing women. She promises the club will not be an earth for vengeful vixens but a means for despairing dumpettes to rebuild their lives.
Their methods are faddish � clients spend equal time with psychologists and manicurists � but they are also tutored in wealth management and can get legal advice.
�The response has been overwhelming,� says Liburd. �When I mention the idea women try to get their chequebooks out on the spot.�
Catch is, one needs to have secured at least �1m from hubby in order to join, to say nothing of the �25,000 annual dues. Liburd insists it isn�t elitist though. �If you get the house and an allowance for the children you�re over the �1m mark pretty quickly these days. Divorce is basically like winning the lottery.�
Surely this is the sort of thing people say in Beverly Hills not Bristol? In fact the UK seems an unlikely place to set up a first wives club at all. �Two years ago the idea would not have resonated with the public,� says Liburd, who believes divorce is now sufficiently epidemic for her club to succeed.
It�s true that 3.7% more Britons divorce every year, with 166,700 untying the knot in 2003. Favourable legislation also makes the UK the ideal spot for trophy wives to turn out their husbands� pockets.
Soraya Khashoggi stung her arms dealer husband, Adnan, for �500m here in the early 1980s, while more recent beneficiaries include Alisa Marks (�40m from French Connection founder, Stephen) and Karen Parlour (a piddly �250,000 in cash but �1m in property and, crucially, 37.5% of the future earnings of her footballing ex, Ray Parlour).
�Those big settlements have made divorce look less awful.� Well, who wouldn�t want a few million for staying home watching Garden Invaders? �Because they have money,� Liburd, a trained counsellor, corrects me, �people assume they can just get on with their lives and don�t need any help.
�In truth, divorced women of high net worth can need even more help than those of more modest means � who traditionally have stronger social networks.
�They run Brownie groups, they�re more involved in their children�s schools and, typically, they have a part-time job. Wealthier women have a greater sense of isolation.�
Her voice drops with feeling. �Their friends are mostly married and quite competitive and they don�t want an independently wealthy woman who�s just had a makeover hanging around their nest. So they sit alone in a six-bedroom house behind their big gates while their children are away at boarding school. Their lives are desperately sad.�
Not only sad, but apparently vulnerable. �They aren�t very savvy when it comes to wealth preservation.� Though they may have benefited enormously from a previous lack of one, Liburd vouches to �spend a lot of time educating them on the importance of the pre-nup�.
�Don�t get even,� Ivana Trump once snarled, �get everything.� �I would add, �And then quickly move on�,� asserts Liburd. �We have become too casual about divorce but I am here to pick up the pieces.� She pauses. �For a price.� |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article529989.ece |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps, "Why men should never divorce," is a better title. |
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seoulshock
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ yeah, but in the US women bring 70% of divorces. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The rule should be that if you file for divorce, you get nothing. ONLY exceptions I can see are if the guy is abusive. Damn bitches should rot in hell. And how the hell did any judge ever see the logic that a woman married to a man has any right to money he made before he even met her? |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| I'm perfectly happy being single ,although most people don't believe me and keep trying to match make for me. I remain completely in control of my life and do what I want when i want. Deep down I suspect most people would actually be quite happy on their own were it not for the massive cultural pressures to tow the line and get married and even become breeders. |
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bixlerscott
Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Yea, staying single is practicle. Unless of course, you accidently meet the right woman and fall in love like a few foreign teachers do in Korea and end up staying many years. It nerves me for Koreans to think your gay, becuase your single in your 30's while it was reported in the news a few days ago that many 20 and 30 year old Koreans are staying single on account of having personal freedom and not having too much financial burdens in these expensive times. It makes good economic and social sense to enjoy the freedoms single life offers until you do, if you do, fall into the right situation by accident. No one should be rushed into relationships on account of peer pressure to marry and have kids.
I love the single life, it gives me necessary personal freedoms to be happy such as traveling, choosing a career, move when and where I deem necessary, do as I please on time off; all while not being burdened with relationship and raising kids such as the financial and time costs involved. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've been asking myself almost daily "Is it really possible to marry someone and continue to enjoy life?" I love dating, and can tolerate a range of commitment levels, but the idea of saying to someone: "I trust you to make decisions that are in both our best interests until we die"... that is quite beyond me.
However, there will come a day (perhaps sooner, perhaps later) when I will not be quite so sexually interesting to men. Would the aging process leave me high and dry? Would my companions desert me? Is marriage the only way to "lock in" a bed-mate for my dotage? |
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| "Marriage" isn't the problem. The problem is that people are more dedicated to their own ambitions than they are to each other. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I really miss being able to make spending decisions without first getting a purchase order from my wife.
I was in Apkujong this weekend and I saw this Louis Vuitton briefcase that blew my mind...she wouldn't even let me buy the grade A copy from Itaewon! (Not till next month anyway) damn her. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
However, there will come a day (perhaps sooner, perhaps later) when I will not be quite so sexually interesting to men. Would the aging process leave me high and dry? Would my companions desert me? Is marriage the only way to "lock in" a bed-mate for my dotage? |
That day has come. Stop taking the pill, it's what all women do when they want to catch their boyfriend. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
I really miss being able to make spending decisions without first getting a purchase order from my wife.
I was in Apkujong this weekend and I saw this Louis Vuitton briefcase that blew my mind...she wouldn't even let me buy the grade A copy from Itaewon! (Not till next month anyway) damn her. |
If a briefcase can blow your mind, it's probably a good thing that she contribute greatly to your spending decisions. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Why have any money at all? |
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seoulshock
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
| Why have any money at all? |
So you can have a place to live, food to eat, and clothes to wear... right? |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| seoulshock wrote: |
| Juregen wrote: |
| Why have any money at all? |
So you can have a place to live, food to eat, and clothes to wear... right? |
He's merely repeating the question every Korean wife asks: Why should husbands be allowed to have any of money at all? They'll only blow it on booze & hookers. |
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Leyana
Joined: 19 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I had to take a male/female perspective class in my sophomore year for some goddamn gen. ed.
If I remember right, men that get married live longer lives, with lower levels of morbidity and higher levels of psychological health.
Married women, on the other hand, die earlier.  |
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