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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: Resilient Iraqis ask what civil war? |
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What civil war?
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DESPITE sectarian slaughter, ethnic cleansing and suicide bombs, an opinion poll conducted on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq has found a striking resilience and optimism among the inhabitants.
The poll, the biggest since coalition troops entered Iraq on March 20, 2003, shows that by a majority of two to one, Iraqis prefer the current leadership to Saddam Hussein�s regime, regardless of the security crisis and a lack of public services. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting..
How would this poll change if you asked only people in Baghdad, or exclude Baghdad? It is my, very elementary, understanding that Iraq is moving towards stability in many regions while Baghdad and the 'triangle' get worse and worse.
I just don't trust opinion polls either. They are very easy to manipulate to manufacture the answer that you want.
What I really dislike, is how this opinion poll will be used by the two or three Iraq war supporters left on earth to justify this horrible mistake of a war. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
I just don't trust opinion polls either. They are very easy to manipulate to manufacture the answer that you want. |
Not when two independent studies were done and by left leaning organizations. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:12 am Post subject: |
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What snake oil are you selling?
Polls consistently from "non U.S. " sources (and the Brits have their own disinformation) have shown Iraqis to be 5 to 1 or more, against the U.S. occupation. In fact, just read this on page 5 of today's Herald. Iraqis have no confidence in their govt and absolutely no confidence in the U.S. being part of anything.
And Bush keeps the ship straight ahead through blood stained water.
I watch France 24 everyday as well as other American media. I just howl at how black and white the coverage is. American outlets say nothing of importance or indepth. They give zero background of the real, on the ground view and just seem for the most part to tread ever so lightly over the real issues. For example France 24 led with a story about how the conditions in even Baghdad are 3rd world and much much worse than pre Saddam. Took you into the houses, talked to the people. Not just a sound clip. U.S. news is all about press conferences, military and press spins.....I don't care if you label me anti American, just the way it is.
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| Officials in Washington and London are likely to be buoyed by the poll conducted by Opinion Research Business (ORB), a respected British market research company that funded its own survey of 5,019 Iraqis over the age of 18. |
This should put any such results into the category of "suspect". These guys don't do zip for free......
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Resilient Iraqis ask what civil war? |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
DESPITE sectarian slaughter, ethnic cleansing and suicide bombs, an opinion poll conducted on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq has found a striking resilience and optimism among the inhabitants. . . .
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Gosh, fiveeagles, I didn't think conservative Christian folks were allowed to smoke marijauna. Just kidding.  I know about forgiveness and redemption. Now who were your poll takers again? Some marketing firm, I think it said. Hmm. Think they were trying to market somethin'?
The other thing I was wondering was how can an invasion "find" anything? Next time I lose my keys, I'll have to ask my friendly neighborhood invasion to help me find them. Sorry. That's just the English teacher in me speaking out.
Here's a poll by a whole bunch of those left-wing, commie, blame-America-first types like the BBC, ABC News, USA Today and the German ARD television network with a slightly less cheery picture than the one you're trying to see through those rose-colored glasses. But maybe they're just PO'd because they couldn't get any of the good stuff for their hukkas, hmm? Maybe you should send them a copy of your poll by that marketing company.
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. . . some 78 percent of respondents said they either "somewhat" (32 percent) or "strongly" opposed the presence of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq -- up from 65 percent in BBC poll taken in late 2005, and 51 percent from one conducted in 2004.
[...and the hits just keep on coming, unfortunately.  ]
Iraqis Increasingly Pessimistic, Anti-US
by Jim Lobe
WASHINGTON - Four years after the U.S.-led invasion, Iraqis have never been more pessimistic about their lives and antagonistic toward their purported liberators, according to a major new poll released Monday by BBC, ABC News, USA Today and the German ARD television network.
The survey of some 2,200 people throughout the country found that security has become by far the most important issue for Iraqis in their personal lives, particularly compared to the results of similar surveys in 2004 and 2005.
Nearly two out of three Iraqis said they were concerned "a great deal" that either they or someone living in their household might become a victim of violence in the country, and nearly half (47 percent) said had either a close personal friend of immediate family members living outside their household who had been physically harmed by the violence.
And 40 percent said they blamed most of the violence on U.S. or coalition forces (31 percent) or on U.S. President George W. Bush (nine percent). By contrast, 18 percent blamed al Qaeda or foreign jihadis; 19 percent on Sunni or Shia militias or sectarian conflicts; and seven percent on Iran.
And some 78 percent of respondents said they either "somewhat" (32 percent) or "strongly" opposed the presence of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq -- up from 65 percent in BBC poll taken in late 2005, and 51 percent from one conducted in 2004.
In addition, . . . http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0320-02.htm |
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