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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Location: Poh*A*ng City
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: The fundamental differences... |
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Now I've been here about 18 months, and I think that gives me rank enough to make at least one overt observation. And, I'm curious to here yours.
Koreans seem to have this almost biological need to use things only as they were "intended" to be used. I can't undersatnd it.
At work we have an elevator that has a DOWN button that sticks, and every day I watch students, teachers, and parents alike try to use it, and everyday I watch them give up and walk down the four flights of stairs.
Never does it ever occur to them to hit the UP button, activate the elevator, and then use it to go DOWN.
Today I showed one of my coworkers how to do it... and not only was she amazed, but as I was showing her she actually looked at me and said, "But, I want to go down, not up".... she was shocked when I told her that the elevator doesn't know care.
Another example is how my girlfriend tells me that the toliet can only be used for 똥&휴지... she actually yells at me when I use it to flush away condoms, q-tips, cigarettes, or anything else. She told me once that the toliet was specifically designed for 똥, and 똥 alone.
Amazing. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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That is soooooooo funny. and true.
what about how they turn your tray around in the school cafeteria? (and then you have to turn it back to the way it was, and get a look of disbelief from the drones) |
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the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: Re: The fundamental differences... |
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n3ptne wrote: |
Another example is how my girlfriend tells me that the toliet can only be used for ?&??... she actually yells at me when I use it to flush away condoms, q-tips, cigarettes, or anything else. She told me once that the toliet was specifically designed for ?, and ? alone.
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Your girlfriend was right.
What's amazing is that only recently korean plumbing has developed to handle anything other than nature's call.
In rural areas, even though toilets can flush, they STILL can't flush heavy items such as those you mentioned.
Same can be said for rural plumbing back home. Both our cottage, and the winery I used to work, had plumbing like that.
If koreans are prone to using things only as they were intended, then why are car turn signals used as anchors for spider webs?
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leebumlik69
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: DiRectly above you. Pissing Down
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: Re: The fundamental differences... |
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ooh I was like a hungry greyhound behind a steel mesh fence licking my paws to get into this!
I'm sure what you mentioned does happen but so does this:
n3ptne wrote: |
Now I've been here about 18 months, and I think that gives me rank enough to make at least one overt observation. And, I'm curious to here yours.
Koreans seem to have this almost biological need to use things only as they were "intended" to be used. I can't undersatnd it. |
I've seen plastic bottles tied to the inside o buses to stop leaks or something. I've observed strange things like that a number of times.
I find Korean teachers for example to often be very resourceful using almost anything as a teaching resource!
Even today!! - the flip side of a random coins used instead of a die roll to slow a game down and make students speak English on each game tile...blah blah ..
n3ptne wrote: |
At work we have an elevator that has a DOWN button that sticks, and every day I watch students, teachers, and parents alike try to use it, and everyday I watch them give up and walk down the four flights of stairs.
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I once got caught napping when this apparently hostile Korean woman who was waiting for the same elevator as me pressed the 'up' button on a perfectly funtional elevator. I needed to go down. She got in. I stayed out. She went DOWN!! instead of up. Why? Nobody knows except her maybe...maybe she had a change of heart but it all seemed premedited and she had a "ill favored look" as she got in. I really felt that she didn't want me in there!!
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Today I showed one of my coworkers how to do it... and not only was she amazed, but as I was showing her she actually looked at me and said, "But, I want to go down, not up".... she was shocked when I told her that the elevator doesn't know care. |
EVERY country has ditsy people. It seems to transcend race and culture.
I'm ususally morea amazed by waygookin that can't get the hang of the odd/even elevator thing!
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Another example is how my girlfriend tells me that the toliet can only be used for 똥&휴지... she actually yells at me when I use it to flush away condoms, q-tips, cigarettes, or anything else. She told me once that the toliet was specifically designed for 똥, and 똥 alone. |
Thats probably because she's sick of Koeran men (and women) chucking cigs into toilets. It's one thing I see all the time in Korea. Maybe less so in recent years but who knows..
I also see newspapers there a lot. So they're being used as libraries too..
Korea never fails to amaze!! |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Op gets at a good point. When too many people think and act alike
they seem to find it hard to perceive other ways. Food can be eaten differently, coffee can be different, people can line up and wait for others to exit. But when everybody's doing the same thing, everybody follows. Maybe part of our job is to introduce different things.
The "unbelievable" thread points out some amazing things too. |
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jinks

Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: The fundamental differences... |
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n3ptne wrote: |
... she actually yells at me when I use it to flush away condoms... |
Never flush condoms down the toilet, always put them in the trash.
http://www.avert.org/usecond.htm |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: The fundamental differences... |
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jinks wrote: |
n3ptne wrote: |
... she actually yells at me when I use it to flush away condoms... |
Never flush condoms down the toilet, always put them in the trash.
http://www.avert.org/usecond.htm |
I agree. Throwing condoms in the toilet is idiotic. Why? Well, where do you think the condoms end up? In the river.
They belong in the trash.
Some people think toilets are magic garbage disposal systems.  |
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n3ptne
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Location: Poh*A*ng City
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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What's amazing is that only recently korean plumbing has developed to handle anything other than nature's call.
In rural areas, even though toilets can flush, they STILL can't flush heavy items such as those you mentioned. |
Ah.... I don't know about you, but my craps are usually a little harder to handle than a cigarette butt or a q-tip. If the toliet can't handle it, that's the toliets fault, not mine, and it's also a plumbers problem, not mine.
I always flush condoms down the toliet. It's like magic.
Poof, they're gone.
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I agree. Throwing condoms in the toilet is idiotic. Why? Well, where do you think the condoms end up? In the river. |
I don't know how long you've been living here... but where do you think your trash ends up?
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Some people think toilets are magic garbage disposal systems. |
Poof, they're gone.
This isn't about ditzy people, or how they trancend race... this is a reoccuring phenomenon that exhibits itself in a thousand different facets of this culture. There isn't anything wrong with it, and of course there are examples that prove the rule, but as far as I'm concerned it is one of the biggest differences between our cultures.
Take green tea for example... I want to have one, I open the packet and lob the entire tea bag, string and all, into the cup.
Korean response? "That's dirty."
Yet if you point out that the majority of the string is always in the cup, even if the top is hanging out, they look perplexed.
Another example?
Taking medicine with anything other than water. As if pausing from ones coffee, cola, beer, or what-have-you to swallow a pill results in an effect that is more healthy than continuing with your beverage of choice, and when it's pointed out that everything mixes inside the stomach... they equally look perplexed.
Of course an American doctor, or pharmacist (my girlfriends profession, this always comes up) will tell you the same thing... but the typical American won't care and will drink the medicine down with anything.
It seems that Koreans have this innate urge to follow the directions of a device and to not deviate from them even if the deviation is effectively irrelevant. Westerns just don't give a shit.
There has to be more of these... this is just the one I've noticed. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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If you think flushing condoms down the toilet is idiotic, at least level that one at our cultures too. All English-language sexual education material on the proper use of condoms clearly states you should not flush condoms down the toilet. I won't argue whether it's right or wrong, just that it's a western idea as well.
And while we're on the topic of Koreans using items only for their single intended purpose, I invite you to look at how they use toilet paper. We use it solely for cleaning ass and consider it dirty, but they use it for wiping up just about anything.
Also, I was amazed to see Koreans using scissors in food preparation. It's brilliant. |
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Bondrock

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Location: ^_^
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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i try my best to obey the maxim "when in Rome"
but, in matters of food i break away... koreans seem fixed on certain combinations of food and certain sauces only go with this or that food and so on... try roasting a pepper when you are having kalbi... they will freak... those peppers are only eaten cold...
the pepper's spice (capsicum) gets 10 times hotter if you roast it... convince a korean to try a bite... hilarious... i do it, then take a spoon of rice to cool it...
also beer... i like beer from a bottle... i hate beer poured into a glass, especially when they make that 10 oz head on a 12 oz glass...
and when my guest uses the bathroom, i pour my own soju, i dont wait like some helpless idiot... |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I throw away condoms in the garbage can because I've lived here for long enough to repsect the garbage disposal system in my neighborhood.
I take medication with water after a meal because I follow the instructions.
I try no to let the paper part of the tea bag fall into the water because I don't want to put my (potentially dirty) fingers into the hot water.
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In fact, I have found the opposite of the OP to be true.
In one office I work in the battle for the elevator at lucnh has gotten to such a point that everyone gets on going up... so as to shaft those waiting to go down. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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I must admit, it is fun to dip a food into a sauce that Koreans don't associate with that food. They just can't fathom why anyone would dip a chicken wing into gochujang whenever there's honey-mustard on the table.
Or having something other than beer with fried chicken. Soju with fried chicken?!!! You crazy foreigner!! |
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Bondrock

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Location: ^_^
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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yea, we're all nuts because we like variety...
forgive me... but i also like ketchup on chicken.... my father (canadian) used to get angry at me for that....
but now, I'm the dad! if i want ketchup on my chicken then stand outa my way.... conventions be damned...
condoms??? WTF... get a vasectomy and save the environment....
two-fold savings....
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: Re: The fundamental differences... |
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Dev wrote: |
jinks wrote: |
n3ptne wrote: |
... she actually yells at me when I use it to flush away condoms... |
Never flush condoms down the toilet, always put them in the trash.
http://www.avert.org/usecond.htm |
I agree. Throwing condoms in the toilet is idiotic. |
Yes. They should be thrown out the window so they can pursue their own uniquely individual destinies. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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I completely disagree with the OP. |
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