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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: Husband rips wife's eyes out after she refuses sex |
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From correspondents in Nimes, France
March 21, 2007 07:28am
A MAN who ripped out his wife's eyes in a fit of rage was sentenced by a French court to 30 years behind bars today.
Mohamed Hadfi, 31, tore out his 23-year-old wife Samira Bari's eyes following a heated argument in their apartment in the southern French city of Nimes in July 2003 after she refused to have sex with him.
Ms Bari, who had demanded a divorce before the attack, was permanently blinded.
Hadfi, a Moroccan, initially fled to Germany. He was finally arrested and sent back to France, where he was indicted for "acts of torture and barbarity leading to a permanent disability".
Prosecutor Dominique Tourette demanded that Hadfi be sentenced to 30 years in prison, two thirds of which must be served in full, calling the defendant a "diabolic torturer".
Once his sentence is served, Hadfi will be deported and barred from ever returning to France.
His lawyer Jean-Pierre Cabanes meanwhile insisted there were extenuating circumstances.
"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen," he said, pointing to the gulf separating his client, who came from southern Morocco, and his young wife, who had grown up in France.
Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action "appeared to stem from a mental illness."
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21420231-2,00.html |
I thought about not posting this, since certain posters will no doubt use this as an excuse to get their hate on for Muslims, but this is a seriously horrendous story. The husband has some serious issues that go way beyond religion into the realm of "this guy is f*cked up in the head!"
Oh, and his lawyer is an idiot. |
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gsxr750r
Joined: 29 Jan 2007
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Sadly, this sort of thing is not uncommon:
Keep in mind, this article highlights that four are murdered each day. How many are burned and continue to live? How many go unreported?
http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_151_200/where_husbands_burn_wives_to_dea.htm
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About four women a day are murdered in 'stove bursts' in Pakistan, reports CHRISTINA LAMB
Hundreds of Pakistani women are being burnt to death every year by their husbands or in-laws in an upsurge of so-called "stove-burst" attacks.
"It's the easiest way for a husband to get rid of a wife he no longer wants." Said Shahnaz Bukhari, the head of the Progressive Women's Association, an organization striving to help survivors and alert the public.
"There are no gunshots, no finger-prints. All the husband has to say is that the wife was cooking in the kitchen when the edge of her dupatta (scarf) fell in the stove and caught fire."
Figures compiled by the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan show that the practice is increasing. This may be due in part to the country's economic woes. Men who might previously have taken a second wife now kill the first because they cannot afford to maintain both.
At least four women are said to be murdered everyday by husbands or in-laws dousing them with paraffin. In Rawalpindi, about 40 women are admitted to hospital each month, often with as much as 90 % burns. "This is just the tip of the iceberg." Said Bukhari.
Most victims die. Pakistan has no specialist burns units, apart from a small private one, and hospital hygiene is often poor.
One of the few survivors is Sabira Khan. Married at 16, she was told by her 36-years-old husband that she would not be allowed contact with her family.
For two years, he beat and kept her prisoner in the house where he lived with his family, until one day her mother arrived and insisted on seeing her.
The husband and mother-in-law ejected the mother and then beat Khan, who was three months pregnant, and set her alight. Outside, her mother heard her screams and, with the help of neighbours, managed to rescue her.
Khan suffered 60% burns. Her chin had fused to her chest. She still bears the scars.
"Being burnt for such small reasons makes us feel we are not considered as human beings but as objects which can be broken and replaced," said Khan, her face half hidden behind a veil.
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Trumpcard
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Dude, that sucks. It's horrendous the kinds of things people do. Reminds me of the custom of burning a woman alive with her dead husband in India, or all the repellent genital mutilation varieties in Africa.
There needs to be some serious education and government action in those countries.
It doesn't say what happened to that burned woman's husband and mother-in-law. Probably nothing, or next to nothing. At least the Moroccan guy got 30 years in prison, pathetic sentence though it may be compared to being permanently blinded and disfigured for the crime of not wanting sex. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Execution alone wouldn't be reactionary enough here.
However, I seek the incineration of sub-human contamination becoming a full-blown industry, creating happy employees whistling on their way to work in the mornings. |
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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
Execution alone wouldn't be reactionary enough here.
However, I seek the incineration of sub-human contamination becoming a full-blown industry, creating happy employees whistling on their way to work in the mornings. |
I wouldn't support this unless sub-humans are being used as fuel in energy production. Just burning them would be a waste.
When I was at university I made up a hypothetical political party whose only policy was the permanent enslavement of major criminals after a term of imprisonment in a lightless underground maze (one maze per criminal). The resulting shadow of a human being would then be put to work on monumental construction projects in honor of the leader of the party. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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In ancient India, chaste women used to voluntarily throw themselves onto the funeral pyre (Sati rites, I believe is the term...) to join their husbands in the next life, and also to purify the existence of family members.
When the original Vedic social/spiritual system (varnashrama) got corrupted into the rigid caste system, widows were often forced to perform Sati by cruel, selfish relatives and unqualified brahmin priests...
The original goddess Sati , the completely devoted wife of Lord Shiva, immolated herself by yogic meditation on the fiery elements because she couldn't endure her father Daksha's offensive acts and words directed at her noble husband... |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Truly a wonderful world we live in |
yeah, and a world full of screwed up people. Nothing surprises me anymore. Someone out there better hurry up and start saying "but it's their culture".  Juat like many Koreans. Do something and blame it on culture. |
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Sophocles
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
In ancient India, chaste women used to voluntarily throw themselves onto the funeral pyre (Sati rites, I believe is the term...) to join their husbands in the next life, and also to purify the existence of family members.
When the original Vedic social/spiritual system (varnashrama) got corrupted into the rigid caste system, widows were often forced to perform Sati by cruel, selfish relatives and unqualified brahmin priests...
The original goddess Sati , the completely devoted wife of Lord Shiva, immolated herself by yogic meditation on the fiery elements because she couldn't endure her father Daksha's offensive acts and words directed at her noble husband... |
Yeah, I studied this a bit too and it's curious that the Indian goverment did eventually outlaw it but who gets to pay the price? I guess the family members who help carry out the ritual, but still... But as I understand it, it's not extremely common anymore. Can anyone back that up?
Also, I believe it came to part of the culture because the burden widowed women become to their families and communities. These women, I'm told, have no one to turn to since their fathers sold them and their husbands are gone. It's more than just the people who want to perform or be part of the ritual. It's the society as a whole who leave the women with little choice in the matter. |
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traxxe
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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This is a heinous crime. Why is this woman not in prison?
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Sorry, I'm going to hell. |
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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
| In ancient India, chaste women used to voluntarily throw themselves onto the funeral pyre (Sati rites, I believe is the term...) to join their husbands in the next life, and also to purify the existence of family members. |
So the presence of an widowed female relative defiles the existence of her relatives? Sounds like a reasonable religion there...
I think "purify" here is meant to mean "get rid of her coz she's useless now and eating up all our grub". I think Sophocles may have been on the mark about the social reasons for this practice. Obviously, in a society that requires a woman to immolate herself rather than go on living without her husband to be considered virtuous is one that does not value women as anything better than possessions. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Now does she see what she has done to him? |
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Yo!Chingo
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| traxxe wrote: |
This is a heinous crime. Why is this woman not in prison?
Er....
Sorry, I'm going to hell. |
Funny as hell |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
In ancient India, chaste women used to voluntarily throw themselves onto the funeral pyre (Sati rites, I believe is the term...) to join their husbands in the next life, and also to purify the existence of family members.
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What does sexual purity have to do with any of this? Weren't they married? If they survived the marriage with their virginity intact, why are they burning themselves up on a pyre, instead of burning up the dance floor and making up for lost time? |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| Trumpcard wrote: |
| Truly a wonderful world we live in |
yeah, and a world full of screwed up people. Nothing surprises me anymore. Someone out there better hurry up and start saying "but it's their culture". Juat like many Koreans. Do something and blame it on culture. |
Give over. No-one's gonna pull out cultural relativism in defence of a man who cuts a woman's eyes out (his motivation for doing so - she refused sex, what ever - doesn't matter! If you do something that awful to even an animal, let alone a human, you lose your rights as a human being). Pretty much everyone of all political persuasions will agree.....we need unimaginably harsh, draconian measures if we are to rid the Earth of abomination. |
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