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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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i picked up a 320m 8800gts for 310k last weekend
probably not as good/cheap as some brands/deals in the states, but it was less that i was expecting to have to pay |
I'd hate to call you on it, but, I just checked the site and there are no 8000 series up there. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| cubanlord wrote: |
| splok wrote: |
i picked up a 320m 8800gts for 310k last weekend
probably not as good/cheap as some brands/deals in the states, but it was less that i was expecting to have to pay |
I'd hate to call you on it, but, I just checked the site and there are no 8000 series up there. |
You mean Danawa?
Hate to call you on it CL. But they are!!! Many, many. The full range from several different makers.
http://pc.danawa.com/price_new.html?defSite=PC&pc=pc&cate1=861&cate2=876
Here's the Evertop 330mb 8800............296,000! Not bad. If you can actually get it for that.
http://search.danawa.com/dsearch.php?k1=EVERTOP++%C1%F6%C6%F7%BD%BA+8800GTS+%BA%F1%B3%CA%BD%BA+320MB
The beauty of buying online is that they have to sell you the item for the price advertised. Go to Yongsan in person and you will always find no one is doing it from the shop at the Danawa price. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
| splok wrote: |
i picked up a 320m 8800gts for 310k last weekend
probably not as good/cheap as some brands/deals in the states, but it was less that i was expecting to have to pay |
I'd hate to call you on it, but, I just checked the site and there are no 8000 series up there. |
You mean Danawa?
Hate to call you on it CL. But they are!!! Many, many. The full range from several different makers.
http://pc.danawa.com/price_new.html?defSite=PC&pc=pc&cate1=861&cate2=876
Here's the Evertop 330mb 8800............296,000! Not bad. If you can actually get it for that.
http://search.danawa.com/dsearch.php?k1=EVERTOP++%C1%F6%C6%F7%BD%BA+8800GTS+%BA%F1%B3%CA%BD%BA+320MB
The beauty of buying online is that they have to sell you the item for the price advertised. Go to Yongsan in person and you will always find no one is doing it from the shop at the Danawa price. |
Man.  No why would the manufacturing company NOT have something so vital as the information regarding their latest card on their website?!??!
Thank you Eamo for correcting me and sorry to splok. |
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splok
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't read Korean, but at the address I posted, I see a link with 8800gts as soon as it loads, and then it is clearly listed on their product page. Did you even visit the link? |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| splok wrote: |
| I can't read Korean, but at the address I posted, I see a link with 8800gts as soon as it loads, and then it is clearly listed on their product page. Did you even visit the link? |
yeah dude. I went to the English site. hold on...
here
check under "available models"
http://evertop.co.kr/inc.php?inc=comp_en/index
I sure don't see the 8000 series. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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That's because its in English!
There's a lot of Korean sites out there that do not update their english version of their site (not obligated to).
HAving said that its right there on the normal site. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
That's because its in English!
There's a lot of Korean sites out there that do not update their english version of their site (not obligated to).
HAving said that its right there on the normal site. |
Yeah, I see it on the KOrean site. Hey, "not obligated to", to me, when you are entertaining the possibility of selling your products to countries that may speak ENglish (hence their venture into their "English" website), is not in my vocabulary. It's their responsibility to update that crap and keep it current, IF, they want to sell their products. Obviously, evertop doesn't really care about their "English" market if they haven't updated it with something as crucial as the release of a new GPU. That is a fatal error.
Furthermore, why spend the exhorbitant amount of money it takes to correctly translate into English and set up an ENglish website if you aren't going to maintain it? That is my point. That ENglish website is not cheap to build, maintain, or edit. IT should be up-to-date.
Hence another reason why I do not like buying high-quality PC parts from Korean companies (in the PC market). If they are willing to go half-a$$ on sh!t like that, who knows how half-a$$ your GPU (in this case) would have been made. Need I remind everyone of Korea's technological blunders over the past decades? FOrget it, I will stick with importing my important PC components from reputable companies. That's not to say all PC related things made by Koreans are terrible (I have seen some nice stuff out there), it's to say that I, as a personal preference, want the bigger and badder stuff in my PC. I want the PROVEN reliability that comes with names such as Core 2 Duo (INTEL), BFG, CORSAIR, and ULTRA. As someone stated before, I spend hundreds of hours on my PC a year (my grad. work, gaming, surfing the net, talking to family back home, writing, etc.); the investment is well worth it. Sh!t, With the PC I have now, if I were to go home now, I'd take it ALL with me.
You guys on this forum know me well enough to know I am not bashing Korea. I am just making a point. that's all.  |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I hear you, cl, but frankly, Korea manufactures quality components. Everyboby has their moments.
Nvidia don't give out GPU chipsets to just anyone. It's their reputation on the line, and they carefully inspect each manufacturer and their premises. They have an ongoing quality control board who do random checks from the marketplace on their products. If one isn't up to snuff, then they pull the license.
I have no problems buying from Korean manufacturers. check your GPU on your card under the heatsink....probably has a "Korea" stamped on it.  |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I generally don't buy Korean brands for the simple reason that I can't do enough research before buying. It's much easier to google a western brand name and model number and hit up a few forums where people rave (or not) about a product than it is to find information on Korean products in English. And even if that wasn't the case, Korea is a much smaller market, so local companies will not have the same volume of feedback as mainstream English brands. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| cubanlord wrote: |
Yeah, I see it on the KOrean site. Hey, "not obligated to", to me, when you are entertaining the possibility of selling your products to countries that may speak ENglish (hence their venture into their "English" website), is not in my vocabulary. It's their responsibility to update that crap and keep it current, IF, they want to sell their products. Obviously, evertop doesn't really care about their "English" market if they haven't updated it with something as crucial as the release of a new GPU. That is a fatal error.
Furthermore, why spend the exhorbitant amount of money it takes to correctly translate into English and set up an ENglish website if you aren't going to maintain it? That is my point. That ENglish website is not cheap to build, maintain, or edit. IT should be up-to-date.
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Believe me they are not spending and exhorbitant amount of money on the English site, in fact I'll bet that most of it comes from something else (like most Korean sites) and OUTDATED. Have you actually navigated through it?
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| Thunndarr : I generally don't buy Korean brands for the simple reason that I can't do enough research before buying. |
Fair enough, but with the techniical specs. and seeing the product in person at Yongsan was good enough for me (took me a good 6 months to get my monitor). I'm very happy with all the stuff that I've bought here. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
I hear you, cl, but frankly, Korea manufactures quality components. Everyboby has their moments.
Nvidia don't give out GPU chipsets to just anyone. It's their reputation on the line, and they carefully inspect each manufacturer and their premises. They have an ongoing quality control board who do random checks from the marketplace on their products. If one isn't up to snuff, then they pull the license.
I have no problems buying from Korean manufacturers. check your GPU on your card under the heatsink....probably has a "Korea" stamped on it. |
I definitely agree with your quality of Korea's tech. stuff. Though, If you put a 7900 GTX made by forsa or evertop up against my BFG 7900 GTX, well, I gurantee my card will blow those two out of the water. Remember, my argument lies with top end stuff, not just "good stuff". I am talking about crem de la crem stuff. Back to point:
If you guys don't believe me, check back to the thread where we discussed the invalidity of TOM's Hardware. I even gave physical undisputable proof that my Card an rig were far superior in terms of performance to those of what the site indicated. And, those rigs should have done much better than mine! That just goes to show you that even though something is supposed to be "as good" or "better" doesn't necessarily mean it will be...unfortunately. Again, I must reiterrate (sp?), importing top quality products (when you are looking for it), to me, is a must. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| The Korean site? Naw. No need for it....right now. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| cubanlord wrote: |
| I definitely agree with your quality of Korea's tech. stuff. Though, If you put a 7900 GTX made by forsa or evertop up against my BFG 7900 GTX, well, I gurantee my card will blow those two out of the water. Remember, my argument lies with top end stuff, not just "good stuff". I am talking about crem de la crem stuff. Back to point: |
Generally graphic card chipsets all come from the same place. A stock 650mHz 7900 will run identically regardless of the branding of the card itself. Where branding comes in is with the secondary features they've added because they all buy the 7900 chipset from nVidea.
For example, the ASUS 1600XT and 1950 cards I use at my place allow me to point any machine to any other machine and display a realtime video feed of what they are doing. Useful for tournaments and whatnot. But this feature cost me $10 more than the same 1600XT and 1950 cards from another manufacturer who went plain-Jane with the exact same performance.
BFG's primary feature is they do stock overclocking out of the box which has already been tested. So a BFG 7900 GTX OC runs at 670mHz instead of the standard 650mHz. If you took any other 7900 GTX card from any other manufactuer and overclocked it to 670mHz, the benchmarks would be identical. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
| I definitely agree with your quality of Korea's tech. stuff. Though, If you put a 7900 GTX made by forsa or evertop up against my BFG 7900 GTX, well, I gurantee my card will blow those two out of the water. Remember, my argument lies with top end stuff, not just "good stuff". I am talking about crem de la crem stuff. Back to point: |
Generally graphic card chipsets all come from the same place. A stock 650mHz 7900 will run identically regardless of the branding of the card itself. Where branding comes in is with the secondary features they've added because they all buy the 7900 chipset from nVidea.
For example, the ASUS 1600XT and 1950 cards I use at my place allow me to point any machine to any other machine and display a realtime video feed of what they are doing. Useful for tournaments and whatnot. But this feature cost me $10 more than the same 1600XT and 1950 cards from another manufacturer who went plain-Jane with the exact same performance.
BFG's primary feature is they do stock overclocking out of the box which has already been tested. So a BFG 7900 GTX OC runs at 670mHz instead of the standard 650mHz. If you took any other 7900 GTX card from any other manufactuer and overclocked it to 670mHz, the benchmarks would be identical. |
Hi Gord,
I understand what you are saying, but, I have proven what you are saying wrong already. Does someone have the link to my performance test vs. Tom's Hardware? Both were Nvidia processors, but, mine mopped the floor with theirs.
Remember, it is like saying, "the same 350HP engine will run the same as another. Not true because some little things in the engine can make a world of a difference. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| No he's right, add in software optimisation and that makes all the difference. |
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