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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are limited by the bandwidth of USB 2.0 so i wouldn't worry too much about SATA.

I know that somebody is going to come in and say otherwise but I've said my bit.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going for a 3.5 you may as well make sure it has LAN connection as well so you get the benefits of higher data transfer.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
If you are going for a 3.5 you may as well make sure it has LAN connection as well so you get the benefits of higher data transfer.


Huh? A hard drive with a LAN connection? Wow....cool. So I can have SATALAN? Or LANUSB? I think FIRELAN would be most excellent.
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Curious_george



Joined: 25 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Just wondering.. Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
mrsquirrel wrote:
If you are going for a 3.5 you may as well make sure it has LAN connection as well so you get the benefits of higher data transfer.


Huh? A hard drive with a LAN connection? Wow....cool. So I can have SATALAN? Or LANUSB? I think FIRELAN would be most excellent.


Hi Demophobe, just wondering where you picked up your portable HD. And what the heck is an enclosure? What accessories, or parts, should we expect to come with the portable HD?

Hope you can help. Thanks in advance.
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi George....nice avatar!

Yes, an enclosure. It's essentially a case for the 2.5" hard drive that has a small set of electronics inside to connect the drive to a USB port.



Like that one, for example. It runs on the USB power, so there are no plug-ins outside of the USB cable to worry about. Essentially like a flash memory keydrive or flashdrive, but bigger and a little less rugged. One has to take a bit of care with them as they are indeed hard drives and subject ot the same pitfalls; if you drop it, it could be the end.

I bought mine over the net, but The Skirts' was purchased hastily at Technomart. As I said before, I chose the Philips enclosure because it looked well-made; there ware no rough edges and the holes for the USB plug and hard drive activity light were well-cut. It just looked like a quality enclosure as opposed to the tin hack jobs that are out there.
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing like a pedantic wanker is there.

I should have written if you are going for a 3.5 enclosure and hard disk make sure the 3.5 has a LAN and USB connection to get the most out of the transfer rates.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Nothing like a pedantic *beep* is there.

I should have written if you are going for a 3.5 enclosure and hard disk make sure the 3.5 has a LAN and USB connection to get the most out of the transfer rates.


Sorry...I still don't speak stupid. Another translation please?

Pedantic? Well, it's better than just not knowing, isn't it? All you are saying is that if the person wants to share files over a local network, the LAN may come in handy. Now, please, find me anything in this thread that even hints the person wants to locally network their drive.

You said:

mrsquirrel wrote:
... you get the benefits of higher data transfer


What? Higher data transfer? This has absolutely no relevance to this thread and is misleading. There are no speed benefits to having an enclosure with a LAN jack. None. Nada. Zip. you are talking out your backside and accuse me of being pedantic.

Perhaps you wrongly believe that one can simply plug the enclosure into the net and download like mad. Well, I'm sure you realize that not only does one need an OS to run software under, but having a computer to surround your hard drive with is more than useful.

For the record, I am a tad pedantic. This is no secret around here, and I am happy to be. Some people need details and more of them; vague posts with allusions to things are of no service to many and only serve to create more questions.
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Curious_george



Joined: 25 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Hi George....nice avatar!

Yes, an enclosure. It's essentially a case for the 2.5" hard drive that has a small set of electronics inside to connect the drive to a USB port.



Like that one, for example. It runs on the USB power, so there are no plug-ins outside of the USB cable to worry about. Essentially like a flash memory keydrive or flashdrive, but bigger and a little less rugged. One has to take a bit of care with them as they are indeed hard drives and subject ot the same pitfalls; if you drop it, it could be the end.

I bought mine over the net, but The Skirts' was purchased hastily at Technomart. As I said before, I chose the Philips enclosure because it looked well-made; there ware no rough edges and the holes for the USB plug and hard drive activity light were well-cut. It just looked like a quality enclosure as opposed to the tin hack jobs that are out there.


Sweet. Sounds good and thanks a bunch. One more thing, it seems as though the parts are sold seperately, correct? The HD itself, and the enclosure? Or do you have the choice of purchasing them together, or no? Again, thanks for your info.!
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can buy them separately or as a built product. It's easier to buy built, so long as you are satisfied with the enclosure.

Good luck.
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mattman



Joined: 18 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question 1:

What's the benefit of having a DC Input?

http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=105703822

They sell the unit without the DC Input for 4,000won less.


Question 2:

What is the brand of choice these days?

I've decided on a 2.5" External Drive
120Gig, 5400RPM/8MB

Fujitsu, Seagate or Hitachi (I'm not a big fan of samsung drives)
120Gig, 5400RPM/8MB

The above brands cost 110,900won to 112,000won.


Thanks Guys,


Mattman
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those drives would all be fine. I have a Fujitsu, but in order, I would get the Seagate, Fujitsu then Hitachi.

As for power input; the reason I went with this drive is that it runs on USB power. No power cables, no plugs needed. I guess that as drives increase in size and rotational speed, they will need some more juice. This is where the whole thing breaks down for me. If I have to find a power outlet and carry around a big DC transformer on the end of a spindly cable, I would just get the largest thumb drive I could...or a few of them.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A SEAGATE or WD 120gig that will run you 85,000 - 90,000. The enclosure 7,000 - 75,000 depending on what you get. The Philips has already been recomended. I'm buying a CUTIE
http://www.highpc.co.kr/detail_view3.html?cate=28&stockno=18450[/list]

It's a little more but, it's a well built case that will last a long time and comes w/ some good features and nice cables and pouch.

About 125,000 w/ a SG or WD 120g 5400 8m drive.



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mattman



Joined: 18 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to go with the seagate.

http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=103529293

Seagate/ Oleto Exa 25 Case
120G
5400 RPM 8MB
112,000won


I found out a little more about the DC Input.

The only benefit is that is reduces the power required of your system, if the drive is running off the DC Adapter then your power supply doesn't have to provide the power.


Mattman
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Dead simple. 80GB Fujitsu for 70,000 about 10 months ago. Slips nicely into my original HP PDA case (I bought another some time ago) for added protection from bumps.
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