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| Which one do you like better? |
| I both like and understand language one better. |
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33% |
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| I both like and understand language two better. |
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60% |
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| I like language one but understand language two better. |
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0% |
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| I like language two but understand language one better. |
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Grimalkin
Joined: 22 May 2005
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
I am with Troll_Bait. I like one more as I feel more comfortable with it and understand it better.
Now come on Mith, come out with it, did you invent one of them? |
Is that it?
Oh...okay, don't answer now. You might skew the results.  |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't make out what Language 1 was going on about and it has a sort of hybrid artificial feel that I don't like.
I understood Language 2 much more easily - so thanks to Language 2 I now know what the story is - and it seems to flow better. So I voted for option 2. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: |
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I liked and understood language one better at first, then I read them again, and liked and understood language two better. 
It's hard to say without hearing them, and it's hard to hear them without being able to say them, and it's hard to say them without knowing exactly what phonemes the graphemes represent... 
The first one I had trouble keeping French out of, and the second one I had trouble keeping Spanish out of. Though on the second read through the first one called up more of my Spanish, along with some imaginary Latin (since I've never studied it).
As someone else said, the first one had more of a dry Latin feel to it.
Those are my somewhat incoherent thoughts. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
I am with Troll_Bait. I like one more as I feel more comfortable with it and understand it better.
Now come on Mith, come out with it, did you invent one of them? |
No, the first one's actually older than the second by about thirty years or so. There's been a silly argument going on for the past two weeks or so about which one is easier to understand at first sight and a number of wild claims have been made so I thought I'd test it out on a board not devoted to IALs. Sometimes people get so partisan (yes, partisan about languages almost no one speaks, ridiculous I know) that it helps to ask people that aren't interested in them what they think. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
I am with Troll_Bait. I like one more as I feel more comfortable with it and understand it better.
Now come on Mith, come out with it, did you invent one of them? |
No, the first one's actually older than the second by about thirty years or so. There's been a silly argument going on for the past two weeks or so about which one is easier to understand at first sight and a number of wild claims have been made so I thought I'd test it out on a board not devoted to IALs. Sometimes people get so partisan (yes, partisan about languages almost no one speaks, ridiculous I know) that it helps to ask people that aren't interested in them what they think. |
Wouldn't ease of understanding be based on the reader's previous linguistic knowledge? I would doubt anyone who studied only Asian languages would find either of those 'easy' to understand given their obvious romance flavour. Maybe we should state our language background when giving our opinion. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Novernae wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
I am with Troll_Bait. I like one more as I feel more comfortable with it and understand it better.
Now come on Mith, come out with it, did you invent one of them? |
No, the first one's actually older than the second by about thirty years or so. There's been a silly argument going on for the past two weeks or so about which one is easier to understand at first sight and a number of wild claims have been made so I thought I'd test it out on a board not devoted to IALs. Sometimes people get so partisan (yes, partisan about languages almost no one speaks, ridiculous I know) that it helps to ask people that aren't interested in them what they think. |
Wouldn't ease of understanding be based on the reader's previous linguistic knowledge? I would doubt anyone who studied only Asian languages would find either of those 'easy' to understand given their obvious romance flavour. Maybe we should state our language background when giving our opinion. |
Yes, I think the "understanding at first sight" is a bit overrated since the majority of the people that find out about these languages are people that have already gotten into the IAL movement first through Esperanto, and to want to study a language as useless (in an economic sense that is) as Esperanto you pretty much have to like languages in the first place. The average unilingual person on the street probably wouldn't understand more than 20% or so.
For Italian speakers of course it's completely different. They can read just about everything. |
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Sophocles
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Location: MetroSeoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Did I miss something or did you say what each language actually is? I thought for sure number 2 was Latin - all those years in choir made some things look familiar. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Did I miss something or did you say what each language actually is? I thought for sure number 2 was Latin - all those years in choir made some things look familiar. |
No, I kept it a secret so that people could vote on the appearance itself instead of maybe checking a Wikipedia article first before voting. The second one does style itself as a new version of Latin sometimes though. |
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