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Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

I really doubt Morrocco is as bad as Pakistan when it comes to women. Of course, we would need statistics. It is more common to hear of murders of women happening in Pakistan and also neighbouring India. In India, some hindus murder their wives if they think the dowry is not enough and too many girls are aborted. The Muslim Indians are probably similar to their counterparts in Pakistan with the exception of their being too many fanatics in a certain part of Pakiistan called Waziristan as compared to the rest of the country which is pretty bad.
What happened to that law that Musharaff wanted passed to protect Pakistani women? I think it passed as far as I remember. I am not sure what effect it will have. Another twist in Pakistan is if a man marries a woman and the tribal people don't like him and feel offended they will sometimes kill both the girl and the boy.

Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

Of course it wasn't that long ago in a "civilized" country like the U.S. that any dark-colored fella even lookin' funny at a white woman would end up lynched from the highest tree or dragged for a coupled miles tied to the back of a pick-up truck...

No shortage of abortions in America, either...

And contestants on reality TV shows viewed by millions compete to see who can eat the most (gouged-out) sheep eyes ...

Tud Ferguson · Joined: 03 Dec 2006

Let me guess, the dude is a muslim? Then of course the Koran says that's cool

Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

Zoidberg · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:23 am Post subject:

SuperFly · Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse

T/F? I hear random acid-on-the-face-throwing is popular in India.

Alyallen · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject:

thepeel · Joined: 08 Aug 2004

Zoidberg · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject:

That judge must have lost her brain on holidays. Fine, their culture permits it, whatever, but the law of Germany (I assume) does not permit violent beatings and rape. I was under the impression that judges are supposed to rule on the basis of the law, not of the offenders home culture.

Islam allows for the killing of adulterers (assuming certain conditions are met). So, can certain Muslims get away with murder in Germany on this basis? Or certain Africans get away with genital mutilation? Or certain Indians get away with burning women to death.

"Oh, but it's my culture!"

Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

SPINOZA · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul

A female judge too? Good god, that's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard.

So, Muslims may beat their wives in Germany, but German men may not. Interesting precedent, to say the least. What an absolutely stupid t**t - how the hell did she make it as a judge?

"When the Koran is put above the German Constitution, I can only say, 'Good night, Germany,'"

Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

While the U.S. legal system may be relatively advanced and progressive, I don't buy the idea of cultural superiority.

Any country that unnecessarily slaughters ten billion animals a year is not especially civilized or cultured.

The fetus is a sentient being. No one should have the right to kill a sentient being unnecessarily (i.e. unless the mother's life depends on it...)

Animals are also sentient beings that should not to be unnecessarily killed. Many are also tortured (eg: veal calves - http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-28jan2001-veal.html)

Modern science is only now beginning to understand how sentient animals really are :http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/mg18625025.700

That same article also notes how popular bestiality apparently still is:

...Type "dog sex" into Google and you get 13 million hits. "Farm sex" yields 7 million, while "horse sex" is not far behind at just under 5 million. "Bestiality" yields 1.8 million hits...
...Sex with animals is legal in Sweden, as it is in half the states of the US. In Germany it is not explicitly banned, and in other countries the law is at best unclear...

Actually, the Fear Factor episode that I saw where contestants had to eat gouged-out sheeps' eyes was set in a barn, and live sheep could be seen in the background with black patches over their eyes (hopefully that was just for dramatic effect - since gouging out the eyes of living animals for TV ratings gotta be against the law...)

My main point (excuse the rambling...) is that all cultures that sanction unnecessary abuse and killing of any sentient beings are sick - so we shouldn't feel so culturally superior until we get our own acts together...

peppermint · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:46 am Post subject:

Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

My understanding (based on Vedic scriptures , and - as far as I know - not disproved by modern science...) is that as soon as a fetus starts growing it has consciousness (symptomatic of the spirit-soul...) and therefore feelings.

Not only can it feel pain, but in that pre-birth period the individual soul can also remember a certain number of its previous human births and deaths. Some of them were in male bodies, and some were in female.

From a spiritual perspective, the "abortion issue" isn't a matter of complex gender politics. Neither men nor women can kill another living being without incurring some karmic reaction (according to the circumstances...) If a mother's life would be imperiled by giving birth there would be mimimal reaction in that case.

The male partner involved is also subject to reaction (this life or next...) Both should have some spiritual understanding of the meaning of life and make necessary sacrifices with regard to their own sense gratification in order to raise good children...

Women should not be exploited as a class; rather they should be specially protected and provided for because of their natural role as mothers. Men who champion women's right to abort for most any reason tend to be those who wish to exploit women for casual sex without having to be responsible fathers...

Therefore, the idea of "sacred marriage" has been practically destroyed, and children lucky enough to be born often have just one parent (usually the mother - who has to work harder than ever without a responsible husband and father for their kids...)

It's another sign that modern culture - at least in some important respects - is more degraded now than ever...

Zoidberg · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:29 am Post subject:

You're not doing do yourself any favours. You're using your religion to justify saying women are nothing but baby machines before anything else. Even your statement "they should be specially protected and provided for because of their natural role as mothers" is distasteful since, when taken with what else you wrote, it implies that a woman's only value is as a potential mother.

And on this: