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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Cass talk - still another taste, that the world does not need... Where am I to begin? At the beginning there is always a certain expectation, a product of our wealth of experience... When Germans, which unpleasant-proves already more American beer to drink had, than somebody can be dear, I expected something toward Korean beer plus ' individual note ' - the possibilities are enough here from Kimch'i to honey Ddeok. If one takes the red color in addition, I think automatically of beans... The first contact: after I could open it like a normal beer box, it to the mouth led and had tried, surprisingly nothing surprising was there - at least nothing negative. On the other hand I could find also nothing positive. With the thought at Miller's gold I tried it a second time, but again: Nil return. Only the distant breath of something beer something similar. This is definitely no beer. Perhaps one could call it American drinking bar, whose 6,9 per cent alcohol cannot emislead about the Geschmacklosigkeit, and which was major industrial before-digested up to the similarity with a soft drink. I must fair-prove admit that I am absolutely no fan of dose beer. Flaschenbier - and I talk here not about possibly some plastic garbage, but about correct glasflaschen - is ever better and will be ever better. Dose beer can never to the quality of beer in glasflaschen herranreichen. But the fact that someone removed deliberately the freshness and the feeling here from excitement from a karbonisierten beer-like beverage borders actually on rape. No, this is not beer. No, this is also no soft drink. No, no and no, it is not a benefit again... not for genuine men. Why does one completely remove not the alcohol and does market the whole as refreshment beverage for wanderer? The color after to judgements one could rub it also on wundgelaufene feet. For the sake of the Fairness will I ' talk Cass ' still another further chance to give, if I am again sober next week, and also the ' drinking until to falling down ' stress test it is still pending but from earlier attempts with American beer to become drunk I know that this can probably only happen, if I should end sometime times in a remote oasis in the Iraq...
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I was wondering if I understood it correctly. I haven't spoken or read German in 10 years, so you could say I'm a bit rusty.
Ich trinke mein erster Cass 6.9% Glas. First impression is that it's good (for a Korean beer). It's a bit drier than the other Korean beers, but still far sweeter and less hoppy than what I like, especially for a beer with such an alcohol content. But, it does go down very easily, so it might actually become quite popular, I'd say.
PS. Glass is done. Unmistakable scorched rice aftertaste (they should add birch chips like they do in Budweiser...it masks some of the rice aftertaste). I guess it's safe to bet this beer didn't cost much to brew. Oh well, next glass. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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... When Germans, which unpleasant-proves already more American beer to drink had, than somebody can be dear, I expected something toward Korean beer plus ' individual note ' - the possibilities are enough here from Kimch'i to honey Ddeok...
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Reading that post hurt my brain more than a 3-litre Red cASS hangover.
Let me give it a try.
Cass Red - the Sweet Taste of Nothingness ...
Hmmh, where to start? First, there is EXPECTATION, which is usually based on previous experience...
Being a German that had the *un*pleasure to drink some of the major American beers out there, I was expecting something like the typical Korean beer, plus an unnamed, unexpected 'Korean' note, which really could have been anything from Kimchi to Honey-Ddeok. Then, considering the colour red, Korean beans come to mind...
The first encounter: after opening it like a regular beer can, putting it to my lips and actually tasting it, I was surprised that there was no surprise... at least no negative one. On the other hand, there was no positive surprise either. With Miller's Gold on my mind I took a second sip and - again, nothing! Just the vague resemblence of something that we might call "beerish" in Germany.
It is by no means a beer. It is, at most, an American-style beverage containing 6.9 percent alcohol (which does by no means make it any better) that has been industrially overtweaked and predigested to resemble some soft drink. Thinking of the beer we have in Germany, I have to admit I am by no means in favour of canned beer. Bottles - and I am not talking about this jerky stupid plastic junk here - are always much better, and can beer will never attain the freshness that bottled beer has. But deliberately removing the excitement and exhiliration - even if you cool it down to minus 3 degrees celsius - of a carbonated drink is an act of violence, I can barely think of anything worse.
No, it's not a beer.
No, it's not a sof drink.
No, no, no, it's definitely not enjoyable.
Not for real men.
Why not take out the alcohol entirely and sell it as a refreshment to mountain climbers? It may even serve as something you can apply to your sore feet, the colour kind of points in that direction, don't you think?
For reasons of fairness, I will try to give it another chance when I am sober next week, and the 'drink till ya die' stress test also is pending, but as previously mentioned, other attempts to get drunk on American beers make me think: This is not going to happen until I am in a remote oasis somewhere in the Iraqi desert... |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Being a German that had the *un*pleasure to drink some of the major American beers out there |
Bist du deutsch? |
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Raptorboy0
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Got wasted on the 69 this weekend...it tastes much better than regular cass but the hangover is 아파죽겠다! |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Had it. The first whack at the taste buds made a big impression, and this stayed somewhat into the middle of the sip too, but the after taste isn't normal. Bug killing juice or something odd about it. That said, that after taste didn't stop me from buying more a few days later. Still like Max a bit more. |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Whoo, it doesn't take me long to get silly on this. |
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bixlerscott

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it's the best Korean made beer I have drank. It's quite clean as the hangover is much less than the other Korean beers. (Hite, OB, regular Cass, Cafre, etc.)
OB Blue comes in second after Cass Red. Cass Red is a much improved product over previous ones, including regular Cass, but it is not for sale in most stores. I only know of one store that sells Cass Red 6.9%, a small yellow corner store near my school. HomePlus and Emart are not even selling it, nor most smaller stores. Wondering if it's only a small scale product test run... |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: |
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they were giving free samples today of it at the homever at the world cup stadium.
tasted like typical korean beer...which means awful |
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Rum Jungle
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: North Asia
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| Had it. The first whack at the taste buds made a big impression, and this stayed somewhat into the middle of the sip too, but the after taste isn't normal. Bug killing juice or something odd about it. That said, that after taste didn't stop me from buying more a few days later. Still like Max a bit more. |
Gotta disagree with you on the aftertaste on 6.9. Compared to the Hite etc it's aftertast isn't so bad. Not good, I'll grant you. But, at least, a bit more effort from the Korean brewers. |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| After drinking a few of these Cass Red pitchers, I've came to the conclusion that it's not much better than the other beers - just more alcohol. Hite's Prime Max has the best overall taste of a Korean beer, presumably because it's a 100% malt beer and made from imported (albeit American) cascade hops. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Rum Jungle wrote: |
| weatherman wrote: |
| Had it. The first whack at the taste buds made a big impression, and this stayed somewhat into the middle of the sip too, but the after taste isn't normal. Bug killing juice or something odd about it. That said, that after taste didn't stop me from buying more a few days later. Still like Max a bit more. |
Gotta disagree with you on the aftertaste on 6.9. Compared to the Hite etc it's aftertast isn't so bad. Not good, I'll grant you. But, at least, a bit more effort from the Korean brewers. |
You must be a smoker if you don't spot the obvious lack of hops and malt in the aftertaste. Hite Max is much better, at least this one has hops (or so says the label). |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: CASS RED 6.9% BEER RELEASED |
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I jusT released some Cass Red of my own!!  |
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crazycanuck
Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: Korean Beer Stinks... |
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| Just adding my two cents worth here. Try this test. Buy a single Hite (add an S in front and you got it right!) bottle. Then find a generic Miller. Open both of them and just smell the $Hite then smell the Miller. Step two is pouring the $Hite down the drain. I am no fan of American beer but you can NOT put them into the same category as Korean Beer. I would gladly drink any American beer over anything Koreans produce. Furthermore, anyone who has visited Europe in their lives will quickly realize that *hite, Crass, and BO...er OB may not even be legally defined as BEER. I highly doubt that any Korean beer would pass the European Purity Laws. Korean beer is known to have been made using chemicals and sugar to speed up the process. As for Crass Red, I bought ONE can, took ONE sip, then poured it down the drain. I keep hoping that the Koreans will someday get it right but beer just isn't something they may ever learn how to do right... |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Beer Stinks... |
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| Just adding my two cents worth here. Try this test. Buy a single Hite (add an S in front and you got it right!) bottle. Then find a generic Miller. Open both of them and just smell the $Hite then smell the Miller. Step two is pouring the $Hite down the drain. I am no fan of American beer but you can NOT put them into the same category as Korean Beer. I would gladly drink any American beer over anything Koreans produce. Furthermore, anyone who has visited Europe in their lives will quickly realize that *hite, Crass, and BO...er OB may not even be legally defined as BEER. I highly doubt that any Korean beer would pass the European Purity Laws. Korean beer is known to have been made using chemicals and sugar to speed up the process. As for Crass Red, I bought ONE can, took ONE sip, then poured it down the drain. I keep hoping that the Koreans will someday get it right but beer just isn't something they may ever learn how to do right... |
That's a little over-the-top, but I agree that Korean beer is of a lower quality than other beers - comparing with commercial American beers goes someway to proving this. If you need a reasonably-priced beer in Korea, your best option is Hite's Prime Max. At least it's an all-malt beer and it uses imported cascade hops. Admittedly, it still doesn't fare well compared to imported beers, but it's better than the other Korean beers and has a bit more of a pleasant, beer-like smell and taste. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Beer Stinks... |
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| butlerian wrote: |
| crazycanuck wrote: |
| Just adding my two cents worth here. Try this test. Buy a single Hite (add an S in front and you got it right!) bottle. Then find a generic Miller. Open both of them and just smell the $Hite then smell the Miller. Step two is pouring the $Hite down the drain. I am no fan of American beer but you can NOT put them into the same category as Korean Beer. I would gladly drink any American beer over anything Koreans produce. Furthermore, anyone who has visited Europe in their lives will quickly realize that *hite, Crass, and BO...er OB may not even be legally defined as BEER. I highly doubt that any Korean beer would pass the European Purity Laws. Korean beer is known to have been made using chemicals and sugar to speed up the process. As for Crass Red, I bought ONE can, took ONE sip, then poured it down the drain. I keep hoping that the Koreans will someday get it right but beer just isn't something they may ever learn how to do right... |
That's a little over-the-top, but I agree that Korean beer is of a lower quality than other beers - comparing with commercial American beers goes someway to proving this. If you need a reasonably-priced beer in Korea, your best option is Hite's Prime Max. At least it's an all-malt beer and it uses imported cascade hops. Admittedly, it still doesn't fare well compared to imported beers, but it's better than the other Korean beers and has a bit more of a pleasant, beer-like smell and taste. |
I agree about the Hite Max. It's a ok beer --not great, but decent.
As for how the beers are being produced: you speed up fermentation with a variety of minerals and enzymes, not sugars. That is what gives you a wicked hangover (and the runs). Adding sugar would boost the alcohol content. The reason Korean beer is sweet is either because some of the sugars in the ingredients used (rice?) cannot be fermented by the yeast, the fermentation is halted before it is complete (adding sulfites or sorbates?)...or they simply add sugar after fermentation for taste. |
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