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Yet Another F-2 Question -- Sorry

 
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Charles in Korea



Joined: 28 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Yet Another F-2 Question -- Sorry Reply with quote

I'm aware that this board gets flooded with F-2 questions, but I feel that mine is different from the standard "can I teach privates on an F-2," so I'm throwing it up here and hoping someone will answer it. I've tried contacting Immigration, the Korean embassy in the US, and even a law office. Everyone either said "we don't know" or never replied. Here is my question:
Is the rumor that you can get an F-2 after seven years in Korea true?

I've read about it, but have never met someone (not even online) who's actually done it. I know some F-2 people, but they all got theirs through marriage. Have any of you gotten the F-2 by meeting the time requirement? Have any of you gotten turned down for the F-2 after meeting the time requirement?

I've been in Korea for a while now, and although I'm not close to seven years yet, there are minor decisions that I need to make based on whether or not the F-2 is an actual possibility. Thank you.
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bellum99



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never once heard of any person getting the F2-1 without being married. I think it is impossible in reality but exists as an option in theory. Immigration sometimes says it is possible..but they never grant it to anyone.

---I would like to know if anyone else has more information.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: hmm Reply with quote

hmm...I can't give you the information you need...but I think the information you want is not about the F2 visa...F2 is a spousal visa...so that is why the only people you know who have it are married.
I think you are looking for information concering the F5 visa...which is permanent residency.
It is possible...but not probable...I don't know anyone with it...who didn't have an F2 visa first.
There are requirements to be met...and if you do a search...you will find what they are(they have been posted here before)...off-hand...I recall something like investment money to the tune of $500,000 was in order. You may want to find out more specifics...I am sure others on this board will direct you to the links related to the F5 visa.
Good luck with your future plans.
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Charles in Korea



Joined: 28 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:
hmm...I can't give you the information you need...but I think the information you want is not about the F2 visa...F2 is a spousal visa...so that is why the only people you know who have it are married.
I think you are looking for information concering the F5 visa...which is permanent residency.
It is possible...but not probable...I don't know anyone with it...who didn't have an F2 visa first.
There are requirements to be met...and if you do a search...you will find what they are(they have been posted here before)...off-hand...I recall something like investment money to the tune of $500,000 was in order. You may want to find out more specifics...I am sure others on this board will direct you to the links related to the F5 visa.
Good luck with your future plans.
I gather that you're a well-intentioned person, The Cosmic Hun (in contrast to the people at Korea Bridge). However, I'm looking for a little more than a web search. I've already done that. According to the Immigration Bureau website (the Korean version -- it's not on the English version) the F-2 is possible after seven years in Korea.

Okay, so I already found the information that I needed when I found that, right? Well, the thing is, I don't know anyone who has gotten the F-2 visa that way, so although it looks possible on paper, I have no way to actually tell if they'll adhere to what their website says. I don't want to gamble on their horrible website -- the stakes are too high to trust that thing.

So my question stands:
Has anyone (or does anyone know someone who has):
1. gotten the F-2 visa by staying in Korea for seven continuous years?
2. been turned down for an F-2 visa after staying in Korea for seven years?


I'm asking if anyone has a real-life experience with this, not the results of a Google search on "F-2 visa," because I can do (and have done) that myself.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read what people are saying in two threads. F-2 is a family visa. Your wife, husband or children (if your spouce dies) are Korean.

Why would you get a family visa if you had no family. There was a rumor years ago that said "if you stayed x number of years you got a free visa". It was bullshiat then it's bullshiat now.

Why do you need an F visa anyways?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

Charles in Korea wrote:
The Cosmic Hum wrote:
hmm...I can't give you the information you need...but I think the information you want is not about the F2 visa...F2 is a spousal visa...so that is why the only people you know who have it are married.
I think you are looking for information concering the F5 visa...which is permanent residency.
It is possible...but not probable...I don't know anyone with it...who didn't have an F2 visa first.
There are requirements to be met...and if you do a search...you will find what they are(they have been posted here before)...off-hand...I recall something like investment money to the tune of $500,000 was in order. You may want to find out more specifics...I am sure others on this board will direct you to the links related to the F5 visa.
Good luck with your future plans.
I gather that you're a well-intentioned person, The Cosmic Hun (in contrast to the people at Korea Bridge). However, I'm looking for a little more than a web search. I've already done that. According to the Immigration Bureau website (the Korean version -- it's not on the English version) the F-2 is possible after seven years in Korea.

Okay, so I already found the information that I needed when I found that, right? Well, the thing is, I don't know anyone who has gotten the F-2 visa that way, so although it looks possible on paper, I have no way to actually tell if they'll adhere to what their website says. I don't want to gamble on their horrible website -- the stakes are too high to trust that thing.

So my question stands:
Has anyone (or does anyone know someone who has):
1. gotten the F-2 visa by staying in Korea for seven continuous years?
2. been turned down for an F-2 visa after staying in Korea for seven years?


I'm asking if anyone has a real-life experience with this, not the results of a Google search on "F-2 visa," because I can do (and have done) that myself.


The Immi site is out of date by more than a year. They have not updated it with any changes to the F series visa for a long time.

As stated alrady, F5 (permanent residence) is what you are shooting for.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: hmm Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:

The Immi site is out of date by more than a year. They have not updated it with any changes to the F series visa for a long time.

As stated alrady, F5 (permanent residence) is what you are shooting for.


This may be out of date as well, but it's probably what he is refering to:

http://www.korealaw.com/content/immigration/Immigration01_02.asp?cate=40
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All about F-2 visa

Any one of the following category of persons can apply for F-2 visa:

1. Spouse of Korean national;
2. Spouse of person holding F-5 Residence Visa;
3. A person who invests a certain sum set by the Ministry of Justice and engages in the Korean commerce;
4. Certain persons who has been residing in Korea for over 7 years and has a place of residence and other ties and connections in Korea.
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Charles in Korea



Joined: 28 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, huffdaddy! Yes, for everyone who keeps on butting in with "I think you mean F-5 visa," this is for you:

The name in English (for the F-2) is "family/spousal visa." The name in Korean is 거주. 거주 does not mean family or spouse -- it means "residence." Do you really think Immigration wants to make your lives easy by making you aware of a residence visa? There are lots of English teachers who have been here for years and would be instantly eligible, and the bigots at Immy don't want that, so they hid it in a language that, shame on you, you can't understand! Of course they're going to change the name when they translate it into English.

According to both the site that huffdaddy provided AND the Immigration website in Korean (http://seoul.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM02/im.../imm_403040.jsp), the F-2 is attainable after seven years. Okay, so we have two sources (at least) that say this is true. So has anyone actually done this? Because just living somewhere for seven years is A WHOLE LOT EASIER than raising up $500,000 and starting a big business!

So anyways, back to my original question:
Does anyone know anyone who either got the F-2 by being here for seven years, or who got turned down for one after living here for seven years?
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm...as far as the F2 and F5...I do have first hand knowledge of being rejected...I asked and was told...that the F2 was for marriage only...the specific words they used were..."Spousal Visa"...which is why I posted what I did...(what they write on their message boards and the reality of the situation often seem to be quite different)... at that same time, I then asked about the F5, and was again rejected...for the money issue...although I was investing a significant amount of money in my new home...and have lived here for over 8 years...I had a close Korean friend call to make sure it was not a language barrier thing...and they were given the same information.
This is my personal experience...others may differ.

I suggest calling them personally...and calling more than one office may be useful...I only called the one in Suwon...I have read threads on this site where some people have mentioned that different immigration offices give different responses to similar questions...even down to the person they met or talked to�it often feels like a lottery.

If you are serious about this...you may want to contact a lawyer who deals with this issue...I did not pursue that route...but if there is a way to gain access to the F series visa without having to get married or invest that amount of money...th