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Dr. Hwang 2.0

 
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Dr. Hwang 2.0 Reply with quote

http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=020000&biid=2007032714988

WOW!

Out of the blue! Korea clone wolves! Amaaaaaaazing!

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A South Korean research team headed by veterinary professor Lee Byeong-cheon of Seoul National University (SNU) has produced the first-ever wolf clones.

In a press conference on March 26 at SNU, Professor Lee said, �The grey wolf is listed as endangered. Our team succeeded in cloning two female gray wolves seventeen months ago and the two are alive and well.�

The paper on the wolf cloning appears in March issue of Cloning and Stemcells, a high-ranking journal on cloning. Prof. Hwang Woo-suk is one of coauthors of the paper. Ian Wilmut is the chief editor of the journal.



Fool me once...shame on you...fool me twice...
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Ecumenist



Joined: 04 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think they bred the wolves to rend and worry future pitch invaders?

These two events cannot be coincidental.
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JeJuJitsu



Joined: 11 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ecumenist wrote:
Do you think they bred the wolves to rend and worry future pitch invaders?


Yes. Yes, I do.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read about that and I'm like.....Who really believes anything they do anymore? Plus Dr. Hwang's name is on the research paper that went along with the cloning.

I'm sure it's legit but I am a tad skeptical till they do DNA testing to confirm it. No one is going to take their word for it this time around.
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doggyji



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Dr. Hwang 2.0 Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=020000&biid=2007032714988

WOW!

Out of the blue! Korea clone wolves! Amaaaaaaazing!

Quote:
A South Korean research team headed by veterinary professor Lee Byeong-cheon of Seoul National University (SNU) has produced the first-ever wolf clones.

In a press conference on March 26 at SNU, Professor Lee said, �The grey wolf is listed as endangered. Our team succeeded in cloning two female gray wolves seventeen months ago and the two are alive and well.�

The paper on the wolf cloning appears in March issue of Cloning and Stemcells, a high-ranking journal on cloning. Prof. Hwang Woo-suk is one of coauthors of the paper. Ian Wilmut is the chief editor of the journal.



Fool me once...shame on you...fool me twice...
As far as I know, the first cloned dog (Snuppy) was found to be true though. So who knows...

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Lee was a key member of Hwang�s research team, whose purported breakthroughs in creating human stem cells through cloning were found to be fake. But the team�s success in cloning the world�s first dog, Snuppy, was confirmed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16269771/

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The university panel ruled that an experiment last year in which Dr Hwang's team claimed to have cloned a dog was genuine.

A three-year-old Afghan hound called Snuppy - short for Seoul National University puppy - was genetically identical to his father according to DNA tests.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4597416.stm
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, can't quote, but I thought it was found out that Snuppy was not a cloned dog either, just a hidden twin? Dunno for sure though.
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KOREAN_MAN



Joined: 01 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
Hmmm, can't quote, but I thought it was found out that Snuppy was not a cloned dog either, just a hidden twin? Dunno for sure though.

The dog was a clone and I believe he's legit too. The people who he was involved with probably were not. And the media hit him hard too. Pretty sad whether he was for real or not if you think about it.
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friendofIgnatius J.



Joined: 20 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Who cares? Reply with quote

Dogs and wolves are almost genetically similar. I would like to know how this is news? We know they cloned a dog for sure. So, congratulations on re-doing the exact same experiment as before. But how this makes news is beyond me.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/276/5319/1647?tdate=12%2F31%2F2000&HITS=10&hits=10&fdate=10%2F1%2F1995&stored_search=&maxtoshow=&FIRSTINDEX=&titleabstract=dogs+origin&searchid=QID_NOT_SET&RESULTFORMAT= Rolling Eyes
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jinju



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liberal arts majors discussing science?

Hwang cheated but it wasnt about cloning Snuppy.
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: South Korea University Investigating Errors Found in Wolf Cl Reply with quote

South Korea University Investigating Errors Found in Wolf Cloning Paper

http://www.lifenews.com/bio2069.html


The paper Lee wrote on behalf of the team was found to have a mathematical mistake in calculating the success rate of cloning the wolves, according to an AFP report. The paper erroneously raised the success rate making it appear fewer wolf embryos died to produce the final two cloned wolves
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's starting to make Rael look bad.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Dr. Hwang 2.0 Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
Fool me once...shame on you...fool me twice...

... you can't get fooled again.
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