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Lostone7



Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Location: SE Asia

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: my visa is cancelled Reply with quote

Question,

If my visa is cancelled and I get an exit order do I still need a LOR?
Also, I have a new passport so could I get around the LOR if I can�t get one?

Basically this job has been a nightmare, 9mths in and every bad scene you can imagine last one was enough. The director said he was revisiting my contract because ���humm well I don�t know but, he said he was going to cut my pay and he hasn�t paid for my OT in months. Anyway enough is enough.

Second question, director has never paid health care, taxes, or pension so can this be used to get a LOR from immigrations? I do know I can threaten him with the labor board with this but might not work he is SUPER prideful and would rather shut down his entire bossiness than ever cave to a foreigner.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: my visa is cancelled Reply with quote

Lostone7 wrote:
Question,

If my visa is cancelled and I get an exit order do I still need a LOR?

NO

lso, I have a new passport so could I get around the LOR if I can�t get one?

NO.


Basically this job has been a nightmare, 9mths in and every bad scene you can imagine last one was enough. The director said he was revisiting my contract because ���humm well I don�t know but, he said he was going to cut my pay and he hasn�t paid for my OT in months. Anyway enough is enough.

Second question, director has never paid health care, taxes, or pension so can this be used to get a LOR from immigrations? I do know I can threaten him with the labor board with this but might not work he is SUPER prideful and would rather shut down his entire bossiness than ever cave to a foreigner.


You can suggest diplomatically that he can either give you a LOR

OR

You will file complaints with labor, tax, pension and medical to get one.

If you make the threat, be sure to make the phone calls. If he calls your bluff and you don't follow through then you are FiretrUCKED.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk to no one else at your workplace about your issues- smile.
None of your co-workers can be trusted. NONE of them.

Guard your documents. Make copies and get them to a safe place- not your apartment. Keep cash on YOU- empty the bank account and walk around with a fat wallet.

Stash clothes and other important things at another apartment- with a friend. Be prepared for some serious BS from the owner- they will try to change the locks once they fire you.

Do you have a friend who speaks Korean? If not, try to find someone ASAP. When you are ready- File with labor- ASAP, and, that same day, go to immigration and tell them you filed with labor and you want to make sure the hogwan owner doesn't claim that you fled the school. They do that kind of crap. The immigration part is VERY important.

The same day- go to pension, health insurance, and tax offices. Bring COPIES of your documents (especially the contract and pay stubs) with you. These crooked hogwans ESPECIALLY fear the tax office.

Report to work, with a witness, if possible. Chances are, the owner will fire you- GET IT IN WRITING. Refuse to leave until he puts it in writing.

I've been through this crap and you can win- but it's gonna be a battle. They know all of the tricks.
PM me if you have a question you don't want to post.
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tomwaits



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Location: PC Bong

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points but they can't get his bank acct, can they?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're visa gets cancelled you should be fine for getting another one, so long as your previous employer hasn't filed any complaints.
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knee-highs



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: yes

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeppers... agreed
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your visa gets cancelled and you get an exit order, then you don't need a LOR. BUT--How can you get your visa cancelled without getting a LOR? You can't just go to immigration and say "I want to cancel my visa." You need to get fired or get the LOR from your boss to get your visa cancelled.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The director said he was revisiting my contract because ���humm well I don�t know but, he said he was going to cut my pay and he hasn�t paid for my OT in months


Don't sign anything.

Fight him at labor.
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Lostone7



Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Location: SE Asia

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: So Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
If you're visa gets cancelled you should be fine for getting another one, so long as your previous employer hasn't filed any complaints.



SO If he fires me and I get a exit order........I don't need a LOR? I am confused.

Now they are saying I have to wait 30days if I want the LOR.........but they will not give it to me until my last day. I so want to leave geesh and if i stay they are cuting my pay and forcing me to do a second job WITHOUT PAY becuase 1class didn't want to meet on fridays ............so they say it's fair.
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