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[gsxr750r]

I have always thought of this uni as one of the primo places to work: 12 hours weeks, good base pay, etc.

I know at least one guy on here who works there, but I'll leave it up to him to chime-in if he wants....


http://www.efl-law.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1243

[ajgeddes]

They should switch to my friend university. He was just one month into his contract and they gave all the teachers a 300,000 won a month raise. So, he makes well over what his contract says. Lucky bum.

[While Away]

I was told by my university (not Hong-Ik) that the contract was more of a statement of the assumptions that the university belived were probably going to happen.
That being said, they have made every effort to satisfy the contract, when certain assumptions ended up to not happening. I just mentnion this because there is certainly a different way of looking at a 'contract' between the Western and Eastern cultures.
Does the labor board view this in the Eastern or Western way? Don't know, good luck!

[rothkowitz]

It amazes me that this stuff still comes up.

You put your name on it,you stick to it,otherwise your name don't mean diddly.

Is taking a contract to be not a finalisation but rather a continued line of negotiation a cultural difference?

No.It's just someone trying to pull a fast one.As is having an order filled and then seeking to renogotiate payment(for foreigners and Korean-Koreans alike).

It's bollocks from the get-go and needs to be countered as soon as it begins to come up.

This is business.It's not airy-fairy 'culture' time.

Wait for the exclamations of "oh,it's all a misunderstanding" when they get their arses pinned to the wall.

[ChuckECheese]

[rothkowitz]

Hence the scope for "misunderstanding"

Actually,before I first came to Korea years ago,my father warned me about the reputation that Koreans had for arbitrarily interpreting contracts.

This was with the venison industry in southern NZ.(deer antlers mostly,I guess, for 한 약)

That.....English here...whatever.Mate,you signed your name.

[Scotticus]

I just don't understand why we sign contracts at all. All it is is a way to screw us over. If we break the contract, we're held accountable and can get fired for it, deported, etc. They know we'll take it seriously because in our culture a contract means something. But if THEY break it, it's a "cultural difference" and is somehow okay. I know it's been said in threads before, but I'll say it again. Korea will never be an international business hub until the culture, on the whole, stops allowing and encouraging these shady business practices.

[rothkowitz]

It won't stop anytime soon with visas the way they are.

You can quit,or continue,either way you still have to wrangle over it(for an LOR or condition fulfilment)

Employers are fully aware of how teachers stand.There are mechanisms in place,best to make use of them.

F- that cap in hand nonsense.

[khyber]

If it's merely a misunderstanding, I wonder how far it would go if the foreign professors misunderstood and only graded 2/3rds of their finals.

"I'm sorry. But that I only assumed I'd be able to mark all the students. In fact, I was unable."