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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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 Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| Two Korean girls have recently told me that alot of Korean men don't like white girls. Well, so far I have had 3 Korean boyfriends and they have to be wrong. I do agree that most just have a curiosity about a foreign girl and will never be serious with you. That's why I keep getting hurt. Even if one of them falls for you you will most likely get dumped because his parents would not like him marrying a white devil girl. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| This a translation of what Korean guys say to each other about western girls "Have you ridden the white horse?" |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Two Korean girls have recently told me that alot of Korean men don't like white girls. Well, so far I have had 3 Korean boyfriends and they have to be wrong. I do agree that most just have a curiosity about a foreign girl and will never be serious with you. That's why I keep getting hurt. Even if one of them falls for you you will most likely get dumped because his parents would not like him marrying a white devil girl. |
What you need is a nice Kiwi Christian knitting-circle dude to settle down with. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:53 am Post subject: fine |
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Guys, do all the name-calling you want. If you want to call me a "racist" based on your own definitions, then fine ... go ahead.
Again, I am only being truthful about my feelings -- which is what 99.9999% of the rest of you are too chicken to do.
First of all....
Do I believe that ALL blacks are different/evil/incapable of being as good as whites? NO
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When I meet a black man dressed in a business suit, or clothes similar to mine, do I pre-judge him as being less of a person, less intelligent, evil, or "not as good".
NO
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When I see a black man dressed in dangling gold chains, a dew rag, high tops, jeans that hang down showing his underwear -- and swearing every other word -- do I make the assessment that he might have a higher chance of being a troublemaker: YES.
Why? Because it's based on what I've seen and experienced -- both in real life, and what the media has shown me (be it real or not). But I try to base my beliefs on what I actually experience.
Now, on the note about Itaewon having a lot of Africans and Muslims, please note that I said, "Africans"... as in people from Africa. Also, Muslims, as in people wearing birkhas and hats or whatever the heck they call them.
Apparently, stating that I NOTICE people have differences in appearance makes me a racist. Also, stating that i feel uncomfortable around large numbers of african people or muslim people must also make me a racist. Then fine -- I'm a racist. Ask me if I give a damn.
As someone else pointed out on this board, there is a reason why people draw conclusions and have responses to things. There is a reason why I am uncomfortable around certain kinds of people. And that reason, in my case, is because of the way a large percentage of these groups have acted in the past (ummm... 9/11).
Now, does that make everyone African, "Evil" or bad? NO
Is every Muslim an evil person who wants to kill all Americans? NO
Maybe certain groups of people should take more concern in how they are perceived and try to remedy that within their own, so peoples' opinions change, rather than name-calling and finger-pointing.
~personal attack deleted by waterbaby 21/9~ |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| I'm still waiting to hear why it's okay to say or imply that all Asians have small penises but it's not okay to say that Arabs might be more prone to being terrorists than your average everyday WASP. |
I fail to make the connection between physical characteristics and personal choices. One is a generalisation of physical traits. One is a generalisation of personal character or cultural (not racial) propensity. (Not that I buy that either). But I'm not big on harping away on the alleged size of Asian genitalia. Who cares?
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Desultude wrote about Condi Rice:
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As deeply and completely as I dislike her, I feel sorry for her in those terms- she can never really outlive her skin color.
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Talk about misplaced compassion. Yes, there probably are people who have negative thoughts about Ms. Rice just because she is black, and she's almost certainly encountered racial prejudice in her life, but so what? She has an education superior to 99% of white people in the USA, lives the life of a millionaire, and sits around all day planning out actions that result in the deaths of many innocent people. Wouldn't you say an Iraqi teenager hit by some trigger-happy American's machine-gun fire is suffering a bit more disadvantage due to ethnicity than is Ms. Rice?
I hear people laughed at Goebbels for being a cripple. The poor man. |
Bang on! |
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William Beckerson
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: fine |
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| Gollum wrote: |
Again, I am only being truthful about my feelings -- which is what 99.9999% of the rest of you are too chicken to do.
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You werent called a racist. You were called an ignorant boob.
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Second...
When I meet a black man dressed in a business suit, or clothes similar to mine, do I pre-judge him as being less of a person, less intelligent, evil, or "not as good".
NO
Third....
When I see a black man dressed in dangling gold chains, a dew rag, high tops, jeans that hang down showing his underwear -- and swearing every other word -- do I make the assessment that he might have a higher chance of being a troublemaker: YES.
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These are the same point.
Regardless, you seem to be afraid of clothing. And you didnt mention all of the white kids with baggy clothes who swear every other word... Or heck, the white kids in Metallica tees who swear ever other word.
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| both in real life, and what the media has shown me (be it real or not). But I try to base my beliefs on what I actually experience. |
Hate to be the one to tell you, but what you see on TV isnt real.
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| Apparently, stating that I NOTICE people have differences in appearance makes me a racist. |
But you didnt do that. What you did was suggest that they were all there to harm you because of the color of their skin. That's racist.
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| Then fine -- I'm a racist. Ask me if I give a damn. |
If you honestly didnt give a damned, you wouldnt keep coming back and trying to coinvince us of it.
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| And that reason, in my case, is because of the way a large percentage of these groups have acted in the past (ummm... 9/11). |
Sorry, I dont remember seeing all of the middle east flying those jets into the towers. Was that Ethiopia hijacking those planes? Was the King of Jordan at the controls? Nope. It was 12 guys who belonged to a fringe organization.
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Now, does that make everyone African, "Evil" or bad? NO
Is every Muslim an evil person who wants to kill all Americans? NO |
Your last sentence suggests that you think it does. Make up your mind.
What I am is a guy who keeps pointing out what an ignorant boob you are. There's a reason we have the ability to keep our yaps shut, and I suggest you start exercising you right to be silent. It can only help you. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:16 pm Post subject: Gee |
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| Uhh... Beckerson... and I'm sure a lot of people other than your PC buddies will back me up on this... you are totally a Troll. |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Gollum:
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| Uhh... Beckerson... and I'm sure a lot of people other than your PC buddies will back me up on this... you are totally a Troll. |
Sorry, Gollum, there is no room under the bridge for Beckerson, you and your buddies take up all of the swamp. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Gollum - waterbaby here in mod mode. Lay off the flaming please.
And Gollum... FYI
| http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll wrote: |
| On the Internet, a troll is a person who posts messages that create controversy or an angry response without adding content to the discussion, often intentionally. Though technically different from flaming, which is an unmistakable direct personal attack, trolls often resort to innuendo or misdirection in the pursuit of their objective, which is to create controversy for its own sake, discredit those with whom they disagree, or sabotage discussion by creating an intimidating atmosphere. |
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Frequently this is used to discredit one position in an argument. By asserting that one's opponents are trolls, one is asserting that they are only maintaining their position in order to feed the flames, and that their position is actually indefensible. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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When I see a black man dressed in dangling gold chains, a dew rag, high tops, jeans that hang down showing his underwear -- and swearing every other word -- do I make the assessment that he might have a higher chance of being a troublemaker: YES.
Why? Because it's based on what I've seen and experienced -- both in real life, and what the media has shown me (be it real or not). But I try to base my beliefs on what I actually experience.
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People wear clothes for cultural reasons, such as who their parents are, where they grew up and who they grew up with, thier race ( sometimes ), their values, the kinds of groups they feel they belong to, and even what kind of music they like. Factually, a lot of the blacks that DO engage in the trouble-making you speak of probably do wear the kind of clothing that you mention. However, the sheer amount of blacks who dress like that, in relation to the small percentage of trouble-makers who wear said clothing makes your connection of clothing to behaviour erroneous.
So if someone dresses more like you they are OK? Palistinian suicide bombers ride israeli buses in imaculate jewish clerical robes as a means of disguise, then unlease unmitigated devastation. I'm not commenting on the political situation there, but clearly, someone who looks the same is not always your friend.
Finally, you mention that media images have shaped your view of people from other races. Why am I even taking you seriously? |
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whatthefunk
Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: fine |
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When I see a black man dressed in dangling gold chains, a dew rag, high tops, jeans that hang down showing his underwear -- and swearing every other word -- do I make the assessment that he might have a higher chance of being a troublemaker: YES.
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Here's the key question - Would you be equaly scared of a white guy in the same clothing? |
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William Beckerson
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Gee |
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| Uhh... Beckerson... and I'm sure a lot of people other than your PC buddies will back me up on this... you are totally a Troll. |
Actually, I'm the Big Billygoat. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| Now Will, bedroom pet names should stay in the bedroom. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| Two Korean girls have recently told me that alot of Korean men don't like white girls. Well, so far I have had 3 Korean boyfriends and they have to be wrong. I do agree that most just have a curiosity about a foreign girl and will never be serious with you. That's why I keep getting hurt. Even if one of them falls for you you will most likely get dumped because his parents would not like him marrying a white devil girl. |
That's so tragic. |
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