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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Ancient Greece
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: GnB Franchise System |
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Can anyone who has worked at or is currently working at a GnB school, anywhere in Korea, give me the low-down on what the actual teaching system is like?
I'm not concerned with any franchise in particular, but would just like to know about the textbooks used, perhaps how long each class is and roughly how many classes you teach a day.
I'd also really like to hear from anyone who teaches just elementary/middle school students at a GnB hagwon.
Thanks for any help! |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: Re: GnB Franchise System |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
Can anyone who has worked at or is currently working at a GnB school, anywhere in Korea, give me the low-down on what the actual teaching system is like?
I'm not concerned with any franchise in particular, but would just like to know about the textbooks used, perhaps how long each class is and roughly how many classes you teach a day.
I'd also really like to hear from anyone who teaches just elementary/middle school students at a GnB hagwon.
Thanks for any help! |
They used to be 2x40 minute classes, split between you and a Korean teacher. You teach 40 minutes and the K teacher teaches 40.
8 classes per day (40 per week) with 5 minute breaks in between was considered normal (8*45=360 minutes or 6 hours per day).
The textbooks were in-house and were particularly useless.
My experience with GnB is several years old and I was an advocate against one hakwon and not an employee but I don't imagine it has changed much.
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Textbooks are very ordinary...
never taught them but have seen them and they look pretty dry and useless...
Of course if you can introduce some sup material this could change but some owners just want you to stick to the book.... |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm a bit familiar with one and it seems it's just a name - what goes on there is completely up to the director and what her staff are willing to do. |
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knee-highs

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: yes
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| I'm a bit familiar with one and it seems it's just a name - what goes on there is completely up to the director and what her staff are willing to do. |
I fully agree with YU |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I worked at one branch and, at first, the owner didn't want any breaks whatsoever between the five hour run (block shift) of classes 3pm to 8pm. I baulked and just 'took' five minutes, dismissing class early. Nothing was said. But, technically, I was going against orders.
Re; the book I've heard the in house text is terrible, but I was given complete freedom to produce handouts which were stapled into the book (not Franchise, a book they selected called Smile). So we didn't ever even study the book, just the handouts stapled in.
The owner was the usual hammy personality, alpha mountain pig. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| I'm a bit familiar with one and it seems it's just a name - what goes on there is completely up to the director and what her staff are willing to do. |
Yes, there is often variance between one GnB to the other. Some follow the franchise template by the letter (same books, schedule, etc...), while others buy different books and follow their own schedule and curriculum.
As the man said, the director is just buying a name. Cheapest franchise name on the market, actually. 20 million won, I once heard. Hence why there are a gazillion GnB's everywhere with no concern to territorial concerns (ie. 2 GnBs within 5 blocks of each other, etc..).
I worked at one a few years back. The GnB books were some of the worst that I've seen and I've seen some doozies. |
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philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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GnB Incheon. I worked there. It almost turned me into a racist. I was treated with disrespect and scorm by the owners and they attempted to fire me without any stated reason. The owner said to me on Thursday that Monday was my last day and that I needed to be out of my apt. that evening. I demanded a) an explanation and b) that my contract be adhered to. His response was a) you don't fit in b) don't raise the matter of the contract. HE was the contract.
After a great deal of stress I managed to get two weeks notice. I also got an explanation of my firing. This was pure evil. He said "The children don't like you." I was aghast. I adore children and children like me very much. For him to give that explanation was pure evil.
My experience at that school was a real shocker. I had heard hogwan horror stories before. Didn't really believe them until I worked at GnB Incheon. Avoid that school. The owners are the worst of the worst hogwan owners.
Simply bad human beings. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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He said "The children don't like you." I was aghast. I adore children and children like me very much. For him to give that explanation was pure evil.
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Given the general obliviousness that directors have over what really is going on in your classrooms, if they hear 1-2 off-comments from a few mothers of children in your class, then that must mean that that's the consensus of all your students. Meanwhile, you are the one that knows that the likely complainers are the badass student whose ass you ride a lot for being lazy or a distraction and the other is the one who incessantly moans for you to play more games. But because of the blanket assumption from your clueless director, you somehow have to change your teaching style for ALL students.  |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: |
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I had heard hogwan horror stories before. Didn't really believe them until I worked at GnB Incheon. Avoid that school. The owners are the worst of the worst hogwan owners.
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Pretty harsh considering there must be anywhere between 100 and 500 GnB schools in the city of Incheon. Care to be more specific, or did each and every one of those schools tag-team your arse? |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| babtangee wrote: |
| philipjames wrote: |
I had heard hogwan horror stories before. Didn't really believe them until I worked at GnB Incheon. Avoid that school. The owners are the worst of the worst hogwan owners.
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Pretty harsh considering there must be anywhere between 100 and 500 GnB schools in the city of Incheon. Care to be more specific, or did each and every one of those schools tag-team your arse? |
There's 24 there, actually. But, yes, being more specific would help. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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There's 24 there, actually. But, yes, being more specific would help. |
Wow, that surprises the hell out of me. There are two that I know of in my area alone (and I ain't been looking for 'em). |
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philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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The location was near DongIncheon Station, a stone's throw from EMart. Owner was Mr. Kim and his wife Mrs. Tae. They had two sons.
If I have to give any advice about Korea it is 'Stay away from that school.' If they should advertise and you apply for the job, be sure to ask the following:
"Have you ever attempted to fire a teacher with two days notice."
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"Did you ever say to a teacher, "Don't mention the contract again. This is Korea. I AM THE CONTRACT."
Pure, pure evil. |
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howie2424

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I've worked part time at two GnB schools over the past two years. Maybe I was lucky but both directors were realy nice. The schedule ran 2:30 to 7:30 or 8:30 depending on how many students they had, 50 minute classes with 10 minute breaks in between. The conversation textbooks are pretty brutal consisting of the kids memorizing a bunch of phrases none of which have much logical connection to one another. Each unit involoved the kids memorizing lines to a 'drama' or short play which they acted out after the book was completed. Pretty mundane. Having said that, the books were easy to teach, the material filled the whole lesson and the younger kids did seem to enjoy acting out the various parts of the 'drama'. The upper level conversation books were especially bad using all kinds of obscure idioms and other material that elementary and middle school students had no hope of benefiting from.
I politely told one of the directors what I thought of the books and she gave me permission to teach from another non-GnB book instead. The other joint said they only teach GnB books so I've just toughed it out teaching their tripe.
I think the botttom line with GnB is that if you're really interested in teaching and want to see your students improve their language skills, GnB isn't the place to teach. If on the other hand you've been here long enough to realize that if you're really interested in teaching and want to see your students improve their language skills you're probably the only person at your school who feels that way, and you only want a reliable pay cheque, go for it. Hope this has been helpful. |
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