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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: The Devil does bad stuff, give God a break..... |
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Yeah, the devil is the bad guy.
The Bible tells us these 2 things.
1) The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy.
(the thief being referred to is the devil.)
2) At the moment we don't see things clearly.
(on earth we are looking through darkened glass... )
Have a good day and don't let the devil spoil it!
Love to all, Ken
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freethought
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I figure there's a good chance that this is a reply to my post about tony snow. And though it's likely best that I not respond, I think it's important to point out that you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
Give the old testament a read over, and you'll hear about a jealous and vengeful god, and a whole heck of a lot of death.
BTW, your post goes directly to proving my point, so thank you. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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The Old Testament points to the coming of Jesus.
"The New is in the Old contained, the Old is in the New revealed."
The Old Testament should be read looking through New Testament eye's.
The OT should read through Jesus glasses, and not just by itself.
Jesus said that he had fulfilled the law and the prophets. It is still the word of God and is an example to us, but now we are in a new era.
We can all be called son's(and daughters) of God by adoption, and he gives good things to His children. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to ruin your day, but God is a woman. It has to be, for an explanation, look at the Korean flag. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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nobbyken wrote: |
The Old Testament points to the coming of Jesus.
"The New is in the Old contained, the Old is in the New revealed."
The Old Testament should be read looking through New Testament eye's.
The OT should read through Jesus glasses, and not just by itself.
Jesus said that he had fulfilled the law and the prophets. It is still the word of God and is an example to us, but now we are in a new era.
We can all be called son's(and daughters) of God by adoption, and he gives good things to His children. |
But Jesus did not come to abolish the law of the Old Testament! Is is not true that if you break any of the OT laws you'll be the least in heaven, and to enter the kingdom of heaven you need to be more righteous than the Pharisees? (matt 5:17-20) Sounds to me like 'fulfilling' the law isn't the same as getting rid of it or telling people to ignore it. Of course, I guess that all depends on who happens to be reading the Bible - I think most Christians these days don't have the devotion necessary to follow all of God's commandments. |
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seoulunitarian

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: re: |
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In the earliest books of the Bible by date (with the exception of Job), it's hard to find a devil character. That's mostly because the ancient Hebrews, when they were not being polytheistic, viewed God as the author of everything, good and evil. There does seem to be some sort of adversary in some OT texts though, though he was certainly not as defined as the NT Satan.
For Christianity to have any power of its adherents, their has to be a dichotomy. Good vs. evil; God vs. Satan. For most people, religion just isn't interesting unless there's a good fight.
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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The pharasee's followed many many rules, some given by God, so to be more righteous than that; you need to follow the Holy Spirit which is within every born-again Christian.
The devotion to follow and obey the Holy Spirit, and stay away from sin, is not for any Church to do; but it is up to the individual and their personal relationhship with Jesus and Father God.
Some Christians, myself included, take 2 steps forward 3 steps back at times. If we draw near to God, turn from sin, He will draw near to us.
All the commands of God are summed up by, LOVE your neighbour, and honour others more than you. |
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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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nobbyken wrote: |
The pharasee's followed many many rules, some given by God, so to be more righteous than that; you need to follow the Holy Spirit which is within every born-again Christian. |
Is that what Matthew 5:17:20 actually says? Because I don't see Jesus saying that you don't need to follow the existing rules. I guess if one didn't want to follow those rules one could argue that when Jesus told people to follow and teach the laws of the Old Testament and not to break them he actually meant that people should just ignore the laws and follow the Holy Spirit. Perhaps that's possible, and certainly a lot easier - after all, God did give us a LOT of laws! Someone would have to devote their whole life just to following them! |
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nobbyken

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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Matttew 22v 36-40 is Jesus explaining about the law & commandments.
v36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
Jesus replied: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: "Love your neighbour as yourself.
v40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
By living a life of love you don't have to worry about breaking any commandments, because your aim is a life of love and not to steal or covet or anything sinful.
Devoting yourself to leading a life of love is not as demanding as following many laws.
1st John 4v16.5
.... God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
If we are asked to live in love, it is not an impossible thing. It is central to the kingdom of God and the believers life.
Love to all,
Ken |
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