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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| chevro1et wrote: |
| The yellow dust is not carcinogenic or pollution-based in origin. |
All I know is that it was as dark as early evening outside my window a few minutes ago because of the crap. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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From what I've been led to believe, it's not the loess that's harmful per se, but the particulate that accompanies it as it sweeps over the most heavily polluted parts of industrial China on its way to Korea. Is that true? |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
From what I've been led to believe, it's not the loess that's harmful per se, but the particulate that accompanies it as it sweeps over the most heavily polluted parts of industrial China on its way to Korea. Is that true? |
Yes, that's true. But even if the particles were 'pure' and contained no contaminants harmful to human or animal life, I believe it would still be causing the same hundreds of millions of dollars worth of economic damage to industries (semiconductor cleanrooms, ship painting processes, others I can't remember at the moment) for Korea, Japan, and of course China itself, though I've only seen estimated loss figures presented by Japan & Korea. So health & medical problems and related costs are on top of all that. |
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refikaM
Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: yellow dust |
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| This is my first "yellow dust" experience as I have been in Korea only since Sept... Can the yellow dust cause a sore throat? I have had a sore throat for more than a week now, yet I feel OK. Is this a common ailment related to YD? I'm on the east coast and can't actually see the dust, but I know it must be out there if you're getting it in Seoul... |
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chevro1et
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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In regards to loess and pollutants:
I can see how loess could abrade a chemically polluted surface and thereby create 'pollution particles' that would be transported via the same mechanism as the loess itself. Additionally, I could see pollutants being adsorbed (not absorbed) by loess and again being transported via the same mechanism, and spreading the pollutants when deposition occurs.
In regards to 'pure' loess
Without doubt, the eolian deposition of loess within an urban environment could result in costly cleanup costs, loss in productivity, general health issues related to particulate-saturated air, etc. dependent on the accumulation and intensity.
I haven't studied East Asian earth sciences very intensely, but from what I understand, increses in loess events can be attributed to massive deserification occuring in China and Mongolia.
Just damn glad I chose Busan. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| chevro1et wrote: |
| Just damn glad I chose Busan. |
You've got an interesting topic to bone up on, given your background and interest. Yeah, Busan is a good place to be. The poster VanIslander has said it's far less noticeable down there, but the east coast is also where the country's shipbuilders are located, and they do have problems. I wonder how long before the western coast comes unfit for human habitation during part of the year. |
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hairy sue
Joined: 18 May 2006
Location: weewee heaven
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow! Someone figured out my password?! Wonder how they did that? |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| Damn it! Will no-one rid me of this meddlesome neighbouring country!? I say an immediate nuclear response is more than warranted. |
Solution: Underground parking. Yeah....I found a perk regarding my apartment!
!shoosh,
Ryst |
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amberflannery
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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i thought it just go dark early because of the lightning, hail, and thunder storm. it was pretty creepy though and confused all my kinders. teacher is it night???  |
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Cynical Optimist
Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Location: S.E. Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| chevro1et wrote: |
| Just damn glad I chose Busan. |
You've got an interesting topic to bone up on, given your background and interest. Yeah, Busan is a good place to be. The poster VanIslander has said it's far less noticeable down there, but the east coast is also where the country's shipbuilders are located, and they do have problems. I wonder how long before the western coast comes unfit for human habitation during part of the year. |
Yeah, VI is right. It's not really noticeable down here on lovely Geoje-do. I almost feel like I'm missing out on part of my Korea experience! 
I keep telling myself to seek out any signs of the dust next time I head out of the apartment -- but I always forget. I guess that's a good problem to have.
As VI always urged, come on down! |
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hairy sue
Joined: 18 May 2006
Location: weewee heaven
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| Huh? Just eat popcorn. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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According to the military link monitoring yellow sand levels, it went well over the 1000 mark on Saturday (Mar. 31...) AFN is still advising all its personel to stay indoors (although the chart looks like it took a sharp drop today...)
http://www.seoul.amedd.army.mil/sites/yellowsand/default.asp |
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PimpofKorea
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Hey.....at least the sand matches their complexion....kind of like free camouflage...not too shabby |
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oneofthesarahs
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| This is my first yellow sand experience. This morning I thought it was just hazy/foggy, since I live right on the harbor and a bit of sea mist tends to roll in during the morning. But nope, yellow sand ahoy. I only went outside once today, just down to the corner to buy a bottle of water, but I heard kids playing around outside all day. Is that really a good idea? |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| oneofthesarahs wrote: |
| ... I heard kids playing around outside all day. Is that really a good idea? |
Well, you know... this IS the land where child car seats are considered a fashion faux pas. |
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