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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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 Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Even though ajgeddes is a habs fan, he is correct.
There was a time when the best players could fight. The 70's was extreme with fighting, but Wayne Gretzky, arguably the most skilled hockey player ever, benefitted from having goons protect him throughout his career. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Honestly, if you don't know much about the game, you don't understand, and no matter how much explaining happens here, you still won't understand. It's like a Canadian telling Australians how to play AFL. You just don't understand. |
Fair enough. I'm done. |
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supernaut
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
Fair enough CT, as I said, I don't know much about ice hockey. I was only trying to point out the Australian experience where violence was taken out of a game, which vastly improved it.
I was mistaken in assuming the term "enforcer" in ice hockey is used in the same way as in Australian Football, where the enforcer is the guy who runs around behind the play looking for an opportunity to take people out. Still if 50% of the teams field 'bodyguards' for star players it show there's an expectation of players, in an National League using deliberate and malicious tactics in the game.
What suprises me more is the mentality of those who oppose taking violence out of the game. If people can appreciate the game for being fast paced, and hard hitting, a game for tough men, then why do you need, or want players fighting and injuring each other?
I don't doubt ice hockey is a great game, I just don't see why the league tolerates violence in a sport. Don't get me wrong, rugby, grid-iron, aussie rules are similar to ice hockey in that they are 'tough guy' games that require, as you put it, skill, speed and toughness. They don't have anywhere near the violence that seems to be tolerated in ice hockey. So where's the problem in getting rid of it? |
I would argue that the "actual" violence in Rugby and Ausie Rules football is actually far greater then hockey.
Hollywood movies such as Slapshot and Youngblood show otherwise, but they are still 2 of my favorite movies.
Hockey in the 80's was a great game, each team had 1 or 2 enforcers, you could instigate a fight, meaning the Enforcer could do there jobs properly and only fought other enforcers. The Instigator rule has made it much harder for them to play there role.
Hockey is a VERY fast sport played by big strong man holding on to solid pieces of wood (or other materiels). Accidents and injuries will happen and when the stakes are big, tensions will rise, any fan of the game will tell you that hockey was at its peak in the 80's when fighting was part of the game (only the fighters fought though) and they could "start"fights.
The NHL has at most 2 "brawls" as year and they are nowhere near as crazy as baseball brawls. |
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