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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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It kills us to think that a man may die or an atrocity commited with without a grand plan, a reason.
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Geeze, I read that somewhere before. Sounds familiar. Posner, McAdams perhaps. Gerald Ford? |
Maybe someone else said it, I'm not sure. Definitly an accurate judgement on human reasoning. we believe without proof. Its the way we are wired. Come up with a rough number for your conspiracy yet? tell me your story. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
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It kills us to think that a man may die or an atrocity commited with without a grand plan, a reason.
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Geeze, I read that somewhere before. Sounds familiar. Posner, McAdams perhaps. Gerald Ford? |
Maybe someone else said it, I'm not sure. Definitly an accurate judgement on human reasoning. we believe without proof. Its the way we are wired. Come up with a rough number for your conspiracy yet? tell me your story. |
What were Oswald�s actions from the time of the assassination until he was arrested?
After reviewing all the evidence as part of seventeen years of research, the researcher's were struck by how much of the conventional Warren Commission story is contradicted by other evidence, including earlier statements by many of their key witnesses. Thus, Oswald�s movements from shortly after the assassination until he returned to his rooming house can�t be pinned down with certainty.
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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On "Batman" (TV show) the Penguin had umbrellas that could do many things, including shoot real bullets. Is that enough proof for you?  |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
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| JMO wrote: |
It kills us to think that a man may die or an atrocity commited with without a grand plan, a reason.
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Geeze, I read that somewhere before. Sounds familiar. Posner, McAdams perhaps. Gerald Ford? |
Maybe someone else said it, I'm not sure. Definitly an accurate judgement on human reasoning. we believe without proof. Its the way we are wired. Come up with a rough number for your conspiracy yet? tell me your story. |
What for? To try to "convince you?" That and a dime wouldn't get me a cup of coffee.
And let's play just suppose. Just suppose there was a conspiracy. Like I said, it is probably better that it wasnt "exposed". Kennedy was killed by his own government; No , it is better that he was killed by the random act of a crazy man. |
Im not sure if you aware of the purpose of quotation marks, but I digress.
Its not better that he was killed by a random act of a crazy man, its just more plausible. I'm open to be convinced.
Really, you seem to know alot about this, you post about it rather aloy. Why not tell us your version of what happened on that day? Give us an idea how many people are involved. Otherwise you are jus dealing in vagueness.
If your conscience is stinging you, you don't want to upset the american people(poor little mites) with your earth shattering story and concrete proof, just tell me. I promise not to pass it on to the unsuspecing american public. I wouldnt want to upset them. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| On "Batman" (TV show) the Penguin had umbrellas that could do many things, including shoot real bullets. Is that enough proof for you? |
everytime I think about that show i tend to dwell on catwoman. Its probably an elaborate conspiracy to make me forget about the um..damn catwoman is hot. What was I saying? |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
It kills us to think that a man may die or an atrocity commited with without a grand plan, a reason.
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Geeze, I read that somewhere before. Sounds familiar. Posner, McAdams perhaps. Gerald Ford? |
Maybe someone else said it, I'm not sure. Definitly an accurate judgement on human reasoning. we believe without proof. Its the way we are wired. Come up with a rough number for your conspiracy yet? tell me your story. |
What for? To try to "convince you?" That and a dime wouldn't get me a cup of coffee.
And let's play just suppose. Just suppose there was a conspiracy. Like I said, it is probably better that it wasnt "exposed". Kennedy was killed by his own government; No , it is better that he was killed by the random act of a crazy man. |
Im not sure if you aware of the purpose of quotation marks, but I digress.
Its not better that he was killed by a random act of a crazy man, its just more plausible. I'm open to be convinced.
Really, you seem to know alot about this, you post about it rather aloy. Why not tell us your version of what happened on that day? Give us an idea how many people are involved. Otherwise you are jus dealing in vagueness.
If your conscience is stinging you, you don't want to upset the american people(poor little mites) with your earth shattering story and concrete proof, just tell me. I promise not to pass it on to the unsuspecing american public. I wouldnt want to upset them. |
Thanks , I did a little "readen up" on quotation marks and this is what I found: ( however, the question mark was outside the quote, I admit)
I don't know how to say it though partner, but yer spellin is a little bad sometimes.
And that brings us to the point about using double quotation marks for enclosing words or phrases that are not actual quotations but that are being set off for some other reason--i.e., words referred to as words.
When a word is being defined or otherwise set apart as a word, it needs to be rendered in some way that will distinguish it from the rest of the text. For words presented as vocabulary terms, either italics or boldface can be used.
For more on this one you can go here:
http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/quotationmarks.html
The people who wacked Hoffa have done just fine, haven't they?
shooters
armorers
paymasters
transportation
escape planners
patsy
erasers
Maybe 30 in Hoffa's murder.
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: |
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lol..i was joking dude..
any word on that number for your conspiracy yet or have you actualy thought it through in any detail?
sorry about my spelling, its crap. i shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.
As I said give me a number? I ca't believe nobody has asked you this before..thought it would be on the tip of the tongue. |
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regicide
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Roy Kellerman was a U.S. Secret Service Agent and witness to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. Kellerman died in 1984.
As the Secret Service Agent, Assistant in Charge of November 22, 1963 Shift Team #3, Kellerman was riding in the front passenger seat of the presidential limousine. The driver was William Greer.
Kellerman also testified to the Warren Commission, "I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots. But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connally three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen." [ wait, according to the Warren Report , 2 shots did all the damage to both the President and Governer Connally]
Kellerman's actions (or lack thereof) have been contrasted unfavorably with that of Agent Rufus Youngblood, who was sitting in the front passenger seat of Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson's car futher back in the motorcade. As soon as he heard the shot, Agent Youngblood immediately left his seat and threw himself atop the vice president. Witnesses said he managed this before the fatal third shot was fired that killed Kennedy.
Translation: Kellerman just sat there, turned around and looked at the President and Governer Connally while they were being riddled with bullets. That was what a United States Secret Service Agent-bodyguard who was a few feet away from the President and had a sub-machine gun on his person did when the shots rang out.
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JMO
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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lol..i was joking dude..
any word on that number for your conspiracy yet or have you actualy thought it through in any detail?
sorry about my spelling, its crap. i shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.
As I said give me a number? I ca't believe nobody has asked you this before..thought it would be on the tip of the tongue. |
You have made up your mind, so what is the point of your question?
Are you trying to convert me? |
I havn't made up my mind on anything. If someone presents compelling evidence, I will change my stance. I'm trying to figure out the scope of the conspiracy. Telling me how many people are involved in your version(there are different levels of conspiracy's talked about) would give me a starting point. After that I would figure out the other aspects. This is a logical starting point. Really i thought you were posting these articles and links to show people what really happened. Why not start with me?
Outline what you believe happened that day and tel me how many people overall(roughly) are involved in the conspiracy. That is a pretty small request. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
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lol..i was joking dude..
any word on that number for your conspiracy yet or have you actualy thought it through in any detail?
sorry about my spelling, its crap. i shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.
As I said give me a number? I ca't believe nobody has asked you this before..thought it would be on the tip of the tongue. |
You have made up your mind, so what is the point of your question?
Are you trying to convert me? |
I havn't made up my mind on anything. If someone presents compelling evidence, I will change my stance. I'm trying to figure out the scope of the conspiracy. Telling me how many people are involved in your version(there are different levels of conspiracy's talked about) would give me a starting point. After that I would figure out the other aspects. This is a logical starting point. Really i thought you were posting these articles and links to show people what really happened. Why not start with me?
Outline what you believe happened that day and tel me how many people overall(roughly) are involved in the conspiracy. That is a pretty small request. |
Please listen. If you don't believe a Physician's testimony and a huge (59) number of eyewitnesses , where can this discussion go? These are facts. ( which you choose to disregard)
Since you ignore eyewitness testimony and blindly follow the government's report ( the same government that killed him, fool) , I can only conclude you are not sincere in your "inquiry" into this matter.
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
lol..i was joking dude..
any word on that number for your conspiracy yet or have you actualy thought it through in any detail?
sorry about my spelling, its crap. i shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.
As I said give me a number? I ca't believe nobody has asked you this before..thought it would be on the tip of the tongue. |
You have made up your mind, so what is the point of your question?
Are you trying to convert me? |
I havn't made up my mind on anything. If someone presents compelling evidence, I will change my stance. I'm trying to figure out the scope of the conspiracy. Telling me how many people are involved in your version(there are different levels of conspiracy's talked about) would give me a starting point. After that I would figure out the other aspects. This is a logical starting point. Really i thought you were posting these articles and links to show people what really happened. Why not start with me?
Outline what you believe happened that day and tel me how many people overall(roughly) are involved in the conspiracy. That is a pretty small request. |
Please listen. If you don't believe a Physician's testimony and a huge (59) number of eyewitnesses , where can this discussion go?
These are facts. ( which you choose to disregard)
How could you believe a theory? |
Include them in your theory. I need to see a big picture before I can precede to the evidence. this reluctance you have is a bit strange. Surely you have thought this through in detail, figured out how may people are involved, etc.
Im just asking you to tell me what you already have worked out. How many people roughly are involved in the conspiracy? map out the days events. You know the subject better than I it seems, enlighten me.
Or you can reference me a book or movie(one you believe) that maps the details and has a rough number for a conspiracy. thats good enoug also. I need a starting point. |
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regicide
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I am sure you can find the " big picture", whoops , those quotes again, on your own.
You can do it!
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Roy Kellerman was a U.S. Secret Service Agent and witness to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. Kellerman died in 1984.
As the Secret Service Agent, Assistant in Charge of November 22, 1963 Shift Team #3, Kellerman was riding in the front passenger seat of the presidential limousine. The driver was William Greer.
Kellerman also testified to the Warren Commission, "I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots. But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connally three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen."
[ wait, according to the Warren Report , 2 shots did all the damage to both the President and Governor Connally]
Kellerman's actions (or lack thereof) have been contrasted unfavorably with that of Agent Rufus Youngblood, who was sitting in the front passenger seat of Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson's car futher back in the motorcade. As soon as he heard the shot, Agent Youngblood immediately left his seat and threw himself atop the vice president. Witnesses said he managed this before the fatal third shot was fired that killed Kennedy.
Translation: Kellerman just sat there, turned around and looked at the President and Governor Connally while they were being riddled with bullets. That was what a United States Secret Service Agent-bodyguard who was a few feet away from the President and had a sub-machine gun on his person did when the shots rang out. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Ok now this depends on the level of conspiracy you believe in. If it is 2 or 3 people I could see it happening.
Now a conspiracy as you seem to be talking about(but whih you seem reluctant to directly talk about) would require more people.
If evidence was forged, if witnesses were silenced, if there was more than one shooter, if evidence was planted, this involves more and more people. As you are unwilling for whatever reason to specify what level of conspiracy you believe in, I would find it hard to put a number on it.
With all conspiracies the most important point is"how many people are involved". The wider the conspiracy the less plausible it becomes. How wide do you believe the conspiracy went? |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| There are SO MANY possibilities when it comes to the Kennedy assasination. Could the umbrella have been a signal for others to shoot? Maybe. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| sweet we can add one more person to the list of conspirators..umbrella signaller. |
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