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Advice needed on Flying to Europe
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that online just today myself, actually. I called the travel agent, but she said that as of right now she has nothing solid about the plans and suggested I wait for a week or two to get more info. Then book via Asiana if we can, and if by then we still can't access the new routes then go with what we got and land in warsaw.

I leave May 23rd.

From what I am NOT hearing, I have to infer that the following is in fact true:

1. When traveling an unfamilar route in countries where you do not speak the language, *simpler* is safer and having a connected flight where you don't have to go in and out of customs during some 4 hour stop-over in a foreign airport is worth an extra few hours on the tail end.

2. Using a Korean agent (or maybe website) for tickets is better than using international ones like expedia when you live in Korea. Not only for price, but also for security, reliability, and assistance if something goes wrong.

All in all it sounds like I best just wait to see if Asiana can help me land in Krakow, and if not, suck it up and land in Warsaw.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leebumlik69 wrote:
Drunken Monkey wrote:
Try Lufthansa into Frankfurt.
They are generally cheaper and you will probably be able to get a connecting flight to your final destination.

Cheaper than Aeroflot? I doubt it! Air France are only fractionally more expensive than Lufthansa.


My plan was actually to discourage people from using Aeroflot. There is a reason that they are cheaper: they don't service their aircraft very well, the in-flight services are limited (no entertainment - not even radio in your armrest or a movie), seats that aren't even properly bolted to the floor of the cabin, and their safety record is among the worst.

Don't do it! Pay a bit more and get to your destination in one piece.
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twilczynski



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:
leebumlik69 wrote:
Drunken Monkey wrote:
Try Lufthansa into Frankfurt.
They are generally cheaper and you will probably be able to get a connecting flight to your final destination.

Cheaper than Aeroflot? I doubt it! Air France are only fractionally more expensive than Lufthansa.


My plan was actually to discourage people from using Aeroflot. There is a reason that they are cheaper: they don't service their aircraft very well, the in-flight services are limited (no entertainment - not even radio in your armrest or a movie), seats that aren't even properly bolted to the floor of the cabin, and their safety record is among the worst.

Don't do it! Pay a bit more and get to your destination in one piece.

Have you ever used Aeroflot on the Incheon-Moscow route?

Aeroflot's service differs depending on the destination. I would be nervous if I had to fly them inside Russia but this is an international flight and they have to maintain standards.

I used them 2 times last and 1 time this year flying Russian planes and didn't have any real complaints. It's true they have no entertainment but on the other hand you have more place for legs and seats are wider comparing to Lufthansa which I'd flown some years ago. Aeroflot's punctuality is also their strong point.

If you really want to avoid Russian-made aircraft you can choose Korean Air to Moscow and then LOT to Warsaw even though the whole flight is signed by Aeroflot.

From Warsaw to Krakow train is going to be probably the fastest but you need be aware that they don't speak English at Warsaw Central Station so you'd better have your destinations written down and ready to show while buying tickets.

IMPORTANT: You can use Polish Airlines on your connecting flight to Poland but don't even think of using them when you fly back, especially if your transfer time is short - they tend to be always late. I myself had a bad experience when due to 1 hour delay my luggage didn't come with me to Korea and I had to wait for it a few days.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twilczynski wrote:
jazblanc77 wrote:
leebumlik69 wrote:
Drunken Monkey wrote:
Try Lufthansa into Frankfurt.
They are generally cheaper and you will probably be able to get a connecting flight to your final destination.

Cheaper than Aeroflot? I doubt it! Air France are only fractionally more expensive than Lufthansa.


My plan was actually to discourage people from using Aeroflot. There is a reason that they are cheaper: they don't service their aircraft very well, the in-flight services are limited (no entertainment - not even radio in your armrest or a movie), seats that aren't even properly bolted to the floor of the cabin, and their safety record is among the worst.

Don't do it! Pay a bit more and get to your destination in one piece.

Have you ever used Aeroflot on the Incheon-Moscow route?



Yes, that is exactly the route I took. My seat rattled the whole way, I was bored out of my skull, the Russian bear of a crew were unfriendly, and for the duration of the flight, I was very regretful that I overlooked their dismal safety record just to save a bit of money.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does poland use the english alphabet?
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twilczynski



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:
Yes, that is exactly the route I took. My seat rattled the whole way, I was bored out of my skull, the Russian bear of a crew were unfriendly, and for the duration of the flight, I was very regretful that I overlooked their dismal safety record just to save a bit of money.

Sorry for you then. Maybe you just had bad luck or it's me who was lucky for not having any problems.

As for the crew, I don't think of them as really unfriendly but it's likely because I'm used to such behaviour in Poland. They are super-friendly compared to the Moscow airport staff and restaurant waiters anyway.

Voyeur wrote:
does poland use the english alphabet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
does poland use the english alphabet?
Shocked Is that different from the French or Spanish alphabet? Or perhaps that damn confusing Roman one?

To answer your question, yes, they use the same letters as we do and a few bonus letters as well.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
does poland use the english alphabet?


Nope, like us, they use the Roman alphabet.
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